Erstwhile (FR)
Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Jun 2005 as a 5yo mare. Finished 3 of 4 at Longchamp (FR) last time. By Desert Prince (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Erstwhile (FR) has 6 produce in the archive, 3 winners — most wins Sikeeb (IRE) (2 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Sikeeb (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sikeeb (IRE) | 7 | 2 | 6f–7f | Class 3 |
| Desiderata (IRE) | 23 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Gypsie Queen (IRE) | 16 | 1 | 7f | — |
| Porterman (IRE) | 20 | 0 | — | — |
| Miss Hamda (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Previous Acclaim (IRE) | 19 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–1Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses).
Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 34 | 6 | 17.6% | +8.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 486 | 46 | 9.5% | +0.4 | — |
| Good | 692 | 57 | 8.2% | −0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 328 | 31 | 9.5% | +0.4 | — |
| Soft | 386 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | — |
| Heavy | 168 | 13 | 7.7% | −1.4 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 640 | 56 | 8.8% | −0.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 108 | 10 | 9.3% | +0.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 456 | 40 | 8.8% | −0.3 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 425 | 24 | 5.6% | −3.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 574 | 59 | 10.3% | +1.2 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 643 | 62 | 9.6% | +0.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 388 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 125 | 13 | 10.4% | +1.3 | — |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −2.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Romantic Girl (IRE) | 9 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 01 Jun 05 | Longchamp (FR) | Prix du Chateau d'Eau (Claimer) | 3/4 | hd | 8-12 | M Blancpain | — |
Quick answers
- How many races has Erstwhile (FR) won?
- Erstwhile (FR) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2005.
- Who trained Erstwhile (FR)?
- Erstwhile (FR) was trained by Mlle H Van Zuylen on the most recent run on record, at Longchamp (FR) on 1 June 2005.
- Who is Erstwhile (FR)'s sire?
- Erstwhile (FR) is by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Urmia (GB), whose sire is Persian Bold.
- What is Erstwhile (FR)'s sire's record?
- Desert Prince (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
- Who are Erstwhile (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Urmia (GB), Erstwhile (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Erstwhile (FR) produced winners?
- As a dam, Erstwhile (FR) has 6 produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Sikeeb (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Sikeeb (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m. As at Oct 2026.