Fatalisme (FR)
Fatalisme is a gelding by Dragon Dancer out of Kassing who is yet to win from three starts on turf, with one place. All three runs came over 1m5f to 2m, two on good to soft and one on soft. His best effort was fourth of 16 at Saint-Cloud in Apr 2025. He finished 14th of 16 at Le Lion-D'Angers in the Prix Mondial Du Lion - Credit Mutuel in Sep 2026.
- 0–3Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (33.3%)Placed
- −3.00£1 level staken=3 at SP
- 252dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.8% of 565 runs since Jan 2008 (80 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 16 | 0 | 0% | −8.8 | — |
| Good | 155 | 18 | 11.6% | +2.8 | — |
| Good to Soft | 126 | 10 | 7.9% | −0.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 139 | 13 | 9.4% | +0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 80 | 9 | 11.3% | +2.5 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 49 | 0 | 0% | −8.8 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −8.8 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 15 | 0 | 0% | −8.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 30 | 0 | 0% | −8.8 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 73 | 1 | 1.4% | −7.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 180 | 20 | 11.1% | +2.3 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 170 | 14 | 8.2% | −0.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 73 | 10 | 13.7% | +4.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 23 | 5 | 21.7% | +12.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 18 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Dame du Soir (FR) (4 wins).
The wins came over 1m7½f–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Dame du Soir (FR)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dame du Soir (FR) | 25 | 4 | 1m7½f–2m4½f | Class 3 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| HT | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie + visor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2025 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 04 Sep 26+491d | Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) | Prix Mondial Du Lion - Credit Mutuel 2026 (Prix De L'Arc Atlantique) | 14/16 | 12 | 9-5 | Thomas Blanchouin | 20/1 |
| 01 May 25+13d | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix Buckskin (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) | 7/16 | nse | 9-2 | Thomas Blanchouin | 7/2F |
| 18 Apr 25 | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix de Saint-Germain de la Grange (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) | 4/16 | ½ | 9-8 | Thomas Blanchouin | 63/10 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Fatalisme (FR) won?
- Fatalisme (FR) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2025 and 2026. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
- Who trains Fatalisme (FR)?
- Fatalisme (FR) is trained by J Boisnard, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 4 September 2026.
- Who is Fatalisme (FR)'s sire?
- Fatalisme (FR) is by Dragon Dancer (GB) out of Kassing (FR), whose sire is Passing Sale.
- What is Fatalisme (FR)'s sire's record?
- Dragon Dancer (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.8% of 565 runs since Jan 2008 (80 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Fatalisme (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Kassing (FR), Fatalisme (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Dame du Soir (FR) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Dame du Soir (FR)). The wins came over 1m7½f–2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.