Skip to content
Horse profile

Never Return (GB)

4yo colt (at last run, Dec 2016) · Last trainer C Lerner · Last owner Paul Le Solleu
by Elusive City (USA) out of Seba (GB) (Alzao)
15 runs · 6 courses · from Mar 2015
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Dec 2016 — 3,596 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2016 · 7th of 14 2 wins · Chantilly (FR) & Deauville (FR)
KTB Profile

Never Return (GB) is 2 from 15. Hasn't won since Oct 2016. Both wins have come on the all-weather — 0 from 7 on turf.

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins on AW

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Elusive City (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,420 runs since Jan 2008 (636 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,122.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm461328.3%+18.6—
Good to Firm90510111.2%+1.5—
Good1,4631278.7%−10 from 3
Good to Soft898728%−1.7—
Soft1,122726.4%−3.30 from 4
Heavy327237%−2.7—
Standard (AW)3,65941211.3%+1.62 from 8
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f99810410.4%+0.7—
6f – 7f4,11743710.6%+0.91 from 8
1m – 1m1f2,2742049%−0.71 from 7
1m2f – 1m4f689527.5%−2.2—
1m5f – 2m210157.1%−2.6—
2m1f – 2m4f9766.2%−3.5—
2m5f – 3m3326.1%−3.6—
Over 3m200%−9.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Seba (GB) (Alzao)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Takeover Bid (USA) (5 wins).

The wins came over 6f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Takeover Bid (USA)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Takeover Bid (USA)3056f–7fClass 4
Sheistheboss (FR)216f—
Shuja (USA)30——
Pastel Rose (USA)10——
Miss Albane (FR)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 8 2 25% +8.30
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Deauville (FR) 5 1 20% +0.10
Chantilly (FR) 5 1 20% +6.20
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Longchamp (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lyon-La Soie (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 8 1 13% −2.90
1m – 1m1f 7 1 14% +4.20

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Thierry Thulliez 5 0 0% −5.00
Christophe Soumillon 3 1 33% +2.10
Mme Sophie Chuette 2 1 50% +9.20
Cristian Demuro 2 0 0% −2.00
Tony Piccone 2 0 0% −2.00
Antoine Hamelin 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 12 2 17% +4.30
None 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 9 1 11% +2.20
2015 6 1 17% −0.90

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
16 Dec 16+48d Deauville (FR) Prix de Grandouet (Claimer) (4yo+) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 14 ran 7/14 1¼ 8-11 Mme Sophie Chuette 27/1
29 Oct 16+77d Chantilly (FR) Prix de l'Allee Sans Souci (Claimer) (4yo+) (Lady Riders) (Polytrack) 8f · Standard · 10 ran 1/10 8-6 Mme Sophie Chuette 102/10
13 Aug 16+45d Deauville (FR) Prix Mawatheeq au Haras du Thenney (Handicap) (4yo+) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 15 ran 15/15 5 9-0 Christophe Soumillon 10/1
29 Jun 16+44d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de la Foret de Marly (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Good · 17 ran 8/17 nk 9-5 Thierry Thulliez 84/10
16 May 16+14d Deauville (FR) Prix de Glatigny (Handicap) (4yo+) (Straight) (Turf) 7f · Good · 18 ran 3/18 ½ 8-9 Thierry Thulliez 83/10
02 May 16+21d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Haute-Normandie (Handicap) (4yo+) (Straight) (Turf) 8f · Good · 16 ran 7/16 nse 8-13 Thierry Thulliez 11/1
11 Apr 16+25d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix de l'Opera Bastille (Handicap) (4yo) (Turf) 8f · Very Soft · 17 ran 16/17 2 9-1 Thierry Thulliez 42/1
17 Mar 16+21d Chantilly (FR) Prix Esso (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 17 ran 14/17 2½ 9-6 Thierry Thulliez 28/1
25 Feb 16+165d Chantilly (FR) Prix de la Route du Debat (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 13 ran 11/13 ½ 9-10 Antoine Hamelin 113/10
13 Sep 15+22d Longchamp (FR) Prix Qatar Racing & Equestrian Club (Grand Prix des Benevoles) (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 8f · Very Soft · 16 ran 8/16 ¾ 9-0 Cristian Demuro 74/10
22 Aug 15+25d Deauville (FR) Prix de Balleroy (Handicap) (3yo) (Straight) (Turf) 7f · Soft · 16 ran 3/16 1 8-11 Cristian Demuro 61/10
28 Jul 15+27d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bois Brandin (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 8f · Soft · 16 ran 2/16 1½ 9-0 Christophe Soumillon 97/10
01 Jul 15+60d Deauville (FR) Prix du Molay-Littry (Handicap) (3yo) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 16 ran 1/16 9-4 Christophe Soumillon 41/10
02 May 15+33d Lyon-La Soie (FR) Prix Ammonius (Maiden) (3yo Colts & Geldings) (Viscoride) 9f · Standard · 7 ran 4/7 nse 9-2 Tony Piccone 51/10
30 Mar 15 Chantilly (FR) Prix de la Traversiere (Maiden) (Unraced 3yo Colts & Geldings) (Polytrack) 9.5f · Standard · 13 ran 4/13 2½ 9-2 Tony Piccone 182/10

Quick answers

How many races has Never Return (GB) won?
Never Return (GB) won 2 of 15 archived starts between 2015 and 2016, a strike rate of 13.3%. Placed 5 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Never Return (GB)?
Never Return (GB) was trained by C Lerner on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 16 December 2016.
Who is Never Return (GB)'s sire?
Never Return (GB) is by Elusive City (USA) out of Seba (GB), whose sire is Alzao.
What going does Never Return (GB) prefer?
Never Return (GB) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Never Return (GB)'s sire's record?
Elusive City (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,420 runs since Jan 2008 (636 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,122.
Who are Never Return (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Seba (GB), Never Return (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Takeover Bid (USA) (5). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Takeover Bid (USA)). The wins came over 6f–7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.