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Horse profile

Payback (FR)

4yo colt (at last run, Jun 2019) · Last trainer H-A Pantall · Last owner Sandro V Gianella
by Kamsin (GER) out of Vega Dance (IRE) (Danehill Dancer)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2019
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jun 2019 — 2,694 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2019 · 7th of 9
KTB Profile

Payback (FR) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 12 at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) (Apr 2019).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 839 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm9222.2%+12.5—
Good160148.8%−0.9—
Good to Soft1091311.9%+2.20 from 2
Soft3203210%+0.30 from 1
Heavy183168.7%−1—
Standard (AW)5747%−2.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−9.7—
1m – 1m1f2214.5%−5.2—
1m2f – 1m4f9488.5%−1.20 from 3
1m5f – 2m1852312.4%+2.7—
2m1f – 2m4f384379.6%−0.1—
2m5f – 3m137118%−1.7—
Over 3m1616.3%−3.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Vega Dance (IRE) (Danehill Dancer)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Genevier (FR)30——
Sa Muse (FR)20——
Detesnouvelles (FR)230——
Sommerdance (FR)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Longchamp (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
06 Jun 19+24d Longchamp (FR) Prix du Val de Grace (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) 12f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 7/9 2½ 9-4 Vincent Cheminaud 13/1
13 May 19+33d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix de la Lomagne (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 12f · Very Soft · 19 ran 17/19 18 8-11 Vincent Cheminaud 67/10
10 Apr 19 Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Saint-Germain de la Grange (Handicap) (4yo) (Turf) 12f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 2/12 nk 9-3 Vincent Cheminaud 31/5

Quick answers

How many races has Payback (FR) won?
Payback (FR) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2019. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Payback (FR)?
Payback (FR) was trained by H-A Pantall on the most recent run on record, at Longchamp (FR) on 6 June 2019.
Who is Payback (FR)'s sire?
Payback (FR) is by Kamsin (GER) out of Vega Dance (IRE), whose sire is Danehill Dancer.
What is Payback (FR)'s sire's record?
Kamsin (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 839 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Payback (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Vega Dance (IRE), Payback (FR) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.