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Horse profile

Say Something (FR)

3yo filly (at last run, Aug 2017) · Last trainer E Libaud · Last owner Mme Angela Kurth
by Motivator (GB) out of Shilly Shally (GB) (Pivotal)
1 run · 1 course · from Aug 2017
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Aug 2017 — 3,354 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2017 · 14th of 15
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Aug 2017 as a 3yo filly. Finished 14 of 15 at Deauville (FR) last time. By Motivator (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 5,578 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 5,578 runs since Jan 2008 (511 horses).

Strongest on soft going: 15.9% from 1,080. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.8% from 1,280. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 15.1% from 589. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 8.7% from 574.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm21523.8%+11.7—
Good to Firm5717112.4%+0.3—
Good1,31714511%−1.10 from 1
Good to Soft85911213%+0.9—
Soft1,08017215.9%+3.8—
Heavy4496714.9%+2.8—
Standard (AW)1,2801007.8%−4.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4137.3%−4.8—
6f – 7f574508.7%−3.4—
1m – 1m1f1,1091089.7%−2.4—
1m2f – 1m4f1,85124313.1%+10 from 1
1m5f – 2m1,21316013.2%+1.1—
2m1f – 2m4f5898915.1%+3—
2m5f – 3m182179.3%−2.8—
Over 3m19315.8%+3.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shilly Shally (GB) (Pivotal)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Smart Cookie (FR) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m3f–1m7½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Smart Cookie (FR)1731m3f–1m4½f—
Shilly Port (FR)521m3f–1m7½f—
Rashie (FR)10——
Shilling (FR)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
15 Aug 17 Deauville (FR) Prix de Lonray (Handicap) (3yo Fillies) (Turf) 10f · Good · 15 ran 14/15 3½ 8-13 Julien Auge 11/1

Quick answers

How many races has Say Something (FR) won?
Say Something (FR) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2017.
Who trained Say Something (FR)?
Say Something (FR) was trained by E Libaud on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 15 August 2017.
Who is Say Something (FR)'s sire?
Say Something (FR) is by Motivator (GB) out of Shilly Shally (GB), whose sire is Pivotal.
What is Say Something (FR)'s sire's record?
Motivator (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 5,578 runs since Jan 2008 (511 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on soft going: 15.9% from 1,080. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.8% from 1,280. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 15.1% from 589. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 8.7% from 574.
Who are Say Something (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Shilly Shally (GB), Say Something (FR) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Smart Cookie (FR) (3). The wins came over 1m3f–1m7½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.