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Horse profile

Saying (USA)

3yo filly (at last run, Oct 2010) · Last trainer F Head · Last owner Wertheimer Frere
by Giant's Causeway (USA) out of Pas De Reponse (USA) (Danzig)
7 runs · 3 courses · from Aug 2009
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 13 Oct 2010 — 5,852 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2010 2 wins · Longchamp (FR) & Deauville (FR)
KTB Profile

Saying (USA) is 2 from 7, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Prix Herod at Longchamp (FR) (Oct 2009). Hasn't won since Oct 2009.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Saying (USA) has 4 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Dicton (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Dicton (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Dicton (GB)1757f–1mGroup 3
Diction (FR)1011m—
Polaris (IRE)40——
Rhetorique (FR)30——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Giant's Causeway (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 3,018 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 7.1% from 394. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 422.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3937.7%−3.9—
Good to Firm6058313.7%+2.1—
Good6556710.2%−1.41 from 2
Good to Soft290227.6%−41 from 2
Soft394287.1%−4.50 from 2
Heavy1582012.7%+1.1—
Standard (AW)87712614.4%+2.80 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f27518.5%+6.9—
6f – 7f5957312.3%+0.72 from 6
1m – 1m1f7368912.1%+0.50 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f84610712.6%+1—
1m5f – 2m422358.3%−3.3—
2m1f – 2m4f202199.4%−2.2—
2m5f – 3m123118.9%−2.7—
Over 3m671014.9%+3.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pas De Reponse (USA) (Danzig)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Sonnerie (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m; the highest grade won is Listed (Sonnerie (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sonnerie (GB)621mListed
Reponds Moi (USA)511m—
Parle Moi (USA)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 1 50% −1.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 1 50% —
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 3 0 0% −2.00
Deauville (FR) 3 1 33% −2.00
Longchamp (FR) 1 1 100% —

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 6 2 33% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Olivier Peslier 5 2 40% −2.00
Mickael Barzalona 2 0 0% −2.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 5 2 40% −2.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 4 0 0% −4.00
2009 3 2 67% —

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
13 Oct 10+59d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix De Saint-Cyr () (3yo Fillies) (Turf) 7f · Good To Soft · 14 ran —/14 8-9 Olivier Peslier 25/1
15 Aug 10+39d Deauville (FR) Prix Du Haras De Fresnay-Le-Buffard - Jacques Le Marois (3yo+ Colts & Fillies) (Turf) 8f · Very Soft · 8 ran 8/8 15 8-8 Mickael Barzalona 100/1
07 Jul 10+90d Deauville (FR) Prix Du Carrefour Saint-Jean (Conditions) (3yo) (Fibresand) 6.5f · Standard · 8 ran 5/8 nse 8-8 Mickael Barzalona 13/1
08 Apr 10+172d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Imprudence (Fillies) (Turf) 7f · Very Soft · 7 ran 7/7 3 9-0 Olivier Peslier 10/1
18 Oct 09+25d Longchamp (FR) Prix Herod () 7f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 1/6 8-10 Olivier Peslier —
23 Sep 09+28d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Ravinella (Fillies) (Straight) 7.5f · Good · 3 ran 2/3 3 9-2 Olivier Peslier —
26 Aug 09 Deauville (FR) Prix de la Reboursiere (Unraced Fillies) (Round Course) 7.5f · Good · 4 ran 1/4 nse 9-0 Olivier Peslier —

Quick answers

How many races has Saying (USA) won?
Saying (USA) won 2 of 7 archived starts between 2009 and 2010, a strike rate of 28.6%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Saying (USA)?
Saying (USA) was trained by F Head on the most recent run on record, at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) on 13 October 2010.
Who is Saying (USA)'s sire?
Saying (USA) is by Giant's Causeway (USA) out of Pas De Reponse (USA), whose sire is Danzig.
What is Saying (USA)'s sire's record?
Giant's Causeway (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 3,018 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 7.1% from 394. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 422.
Who are Saying (USA)'s siblings?
Out of Pas De Reponse (USA), Saying (USA) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Sonnerie (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Listed (Sonnerie (GB)). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.
Has Saying (USA) produced winners?
As a dam, Saying (USA) has 4 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Dicton (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Dicton (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.