Saying (USA)
Saying (USA) is 2 from 7, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Prix Herod at Longchamp (FR) (Oct 2009). Hasn't won since Oct 2009.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Saying (USA) has 4 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Dicton (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Dicton (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dicton (GB) | 17 | 5 | 7f–1m | Group 3 |
| Diction (FR) | 10 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Polaris (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Rhetorique (FR) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
- 2–7Wins / Runs
- 28.6%Strike rate
- 2 (28.6%)Placed
- −4.00£1 level staken=4 at SP
- 69dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 3,018 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses).
Weakest on soft going: 7.1% from 394. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 422.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 39 | 3 | 7.7% | −3.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 605 | 83 | 13.7% | +2.1 | — |
| Good | 655 | 67 | 10.2% | −1.4 | 1 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 290 | 22 | 7.6% | −4 | 1 from 2 |
| Soft | 394 | 28 | 7.1% | −4.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 158 | 20 | 12.7% | +1.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 877 | 126 | 14.4% | +2.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 27 | 5 | 18.5% | +6.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 595 | 73 | 12.3% | +0.7 | 2 from 6 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 736 | 89 | 12.1% | +0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 846 | 107 | 12.6% | +1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 422 | 35 | 8.3% | −3.3 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 202 | 19 | 9.4% | −2.2 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 123 | 11 | 8.9% | −2.7 | — |
| Over 3m | 67 | 10 | 14.9% | +3.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Sonnerie (GB) (2 wins).
The wins came over 1m; the highest grade won is Listed (Sonnerie (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sonnerie (GB) | 6 | 2 | 1m | Listed |
| Reponds Moi (USA) | 5 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Parle Moi (USA) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 2 | 1 | 50% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 1 | 50% | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Deauville (FR) | 3 | 1 | 33% | −2.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 1 | 100% | — |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 2 | 33% | −3.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Olivier Peslier | 5 | 2 | 40% | −2.00 |
| Mickael Barzalona | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 5 | 2 | 40% | −2.00 |
| Blinkers | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2009 | 3 | 2 | 67% | — |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 Oct 10+59d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix De Saint-Cyr () (3yo Fillies) (Turf) | —/14 | 8-9 | Olivier Peslier | 25/1 | |
| 15 Aug 10+39d | Deauville (FR) | Prix Du Haras De Fresnay-Le-Buffard - Jacques Le Marois (3yo+ Colts & Fillies) (Turf) | 8/8 | 15 | 8-8 | Mickael Barzalona | 100/1 |
| 07 Jul 10+90d | Deauville (FR) | Prix Du Carrefour Saint-Jean (Conditions) (3yo) (Fibresand) | 5/8 | nse | 8-8 | Mickael Barzalona | 13/1 |
| 08 Apr 10+172d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix Imprudence (Fillies) (Turf) | 7/7 | 3 | 9-0 | Olivier Peslier | 10/1 |
| 18 Oct 09+25d | Longchamp (FR) | Prix Herod () | 1/6 | 8-10 | Olivier Peslier | — | |
| 23 Sep 09+28d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix Ravinella (Fillies) (Straight) | 2/3 | 3 | 9-2 | Olivier Peslier | — |
| 26 Aug 09 | Deauville (FR) | Prix de la Reboursiere (Unraced Fillies) (Round Course) | 1/4 | nse | 9-0 | Olivier Peslier | — |
Quick answers
- How many races has Saying (USA) won?
- Saying (USA) won 2 of 7 archived starts between 2009 and 2010, a strike rate of 28.6%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
- Who trained Saying (USA)?
- Saying (USA) was trained by F Head on the most recent run on record, at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) on 13 October 2010.
- Who is Saying (USA)'s sire?
- Saying (USA) is by Giant's Causeway (USA) out of Pas De Reponse (USA), whose sire is Danzig.
- What is Saying (USA)'s sire's record?
- Giant's Causeway (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 3,018 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 7.1% from 394. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 422.
- Who are Saying (USA)'s siblings?
- Out of Pas De Reponse (USA), Saying (USA) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Sonnerie (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Listed (Sonnerie (GB)). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Saying (USA) produced winners?
- As a dam, Saying (USA) has 4 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Dicton (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Dicton (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m. As at Oct 2026.