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Horse profile

Vague Idea (GB)

13yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2006) · Last trainer O J Carter · Last owner O J Carter
by Tout Ensemble (GB) out of Roodle Doodle (GB) (Rugantino)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2006
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Aug 2006 — 7,386 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2006 Last raced off OR 66
KTB Profile

Vague Idea (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts. Last raced off 66, 16lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 40C the best of the last 1 rated run · Hereford, 19 Jun 2006 Official rating 66 at the last run, 2 Aug 2006

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 3 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Tout Ensemble (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 0% of 9 runs since Jan 2008 (3 horses). A small sample.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm200%00 from 1
Good100%00 from 2
Good to Soft300%0—
Soft200%0—
Standard (AW)100%0—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%0—
1m5f – 2m100%0—
2m1f – 2m4f400%0—
2m5f – 3m300%00 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Roodle Doodle (GB) (Rugantino)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newton Abbot 2 0 0% −2.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr William Biddick 1 0 0% −1.00
James White 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R Woollacott 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
02 Aug 06+10d Newton Abbot South West Racing Club Classified Chase Class 5 · 21f · Good · 7 ran UR/7 — 10-5 66— Mr William Biddick 25/1
23 Jul 06+34d Newton Abbot Fiona Jeffery Handicap Chase Class 4 · 26f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 9-7 77— James White 33/1
19 Jun 06 Hereford Charles Dawson Memorial Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 7/12 2 9-7 8240C Mr R Woollacott 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Vague Idea (GB) won?
Vague Idea (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2006.
Who trained Vague Idea (GB)?
Vague Idea (GB) was trained by O J Carter on the most recent run on record, at Newton Abbot on 2 August 2006.
Who is Vague Idea (GB)'s sire?
Vague Idea (GB) is by Tout Ensemble (GB) out of Roodle Doodle (GB), whose sire is Rugantino.
What is Vague Idea (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 66, from the run on 2 August 2006. The highest on record is 82.
What is Vague Idea (GB)'s sire's record?
Tout Ensemble (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 0% of 9 runs since Jan 2008 (3 horses), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.

Record shown from June 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.