How many races has You Never (FR) won?

You Never (FR) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2012. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).

Who trained You Never (FR)?

You Never (FR) was trained by J-L Laval on the most recent run on record, at Enghien (FR) on 10 April 2012.

Who is You Never (FR)'s sire?

You Never (FR) is by Greengroom (FR) out of Toi Jamais (FR), whose sire is Sevres Rose.

What is You Never (FR)'s sire's record?

Greengroom (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.3% of 29 runs since Jan 2008 (8 horses), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.

Horse profile

You Never (FR)

4yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2012) · Last trainer J-L Laval · Last owner Mme Chantal Terrenegre Laval

by Greengroom (FR) out of Toi Jamais (FR) (Sevres Rose)

2 runs · 1 course · from Mar 2012

As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 10 Apr 2012 — 5,308 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Apr 2012 · 7th of 11

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Mar 2012 and Apr 2012, the last of them as a 4yo gelding. Finished 7 of 11 at Enghien (FR) last time.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

0–2Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
1 (50%)Placed
−2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
27dAvg between runs

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Greengroom (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.3% of 29 runs since Jan 2008 (8 horses). A small sample.

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Good	8	2	25%	+14.7	—
Soft	5	0	0%	−10.3	0 from 1
Heavy	5	0	0%	−10.3	0 from 1
Standard (AW)	11	1	9.1%	−1.2	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Under 6f	1	0	0%	−10.3	—
6f – 7f	6	0	0%	−10.3	—
1m – 1m1f	9	0	0%	−10.3	—
1m2f – 1m4f	5	3	60%	+49.7	—
1m5f – 2m	2	0	0%	−10.3	—
2m1f – 2m4f	6	0	0%	−10.3	0 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

Toi Jamais (FR) (Sevres Rose)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	Jockey	SP
10 Apr 12+27d	Enghien (FR)	Prix Ouargla (Hurdle) (Conditions) (4yo) (Turf) 18f · Very Soft · 11 ran	7/11	30	10-8	Mlle Nathalie Desoutter	19/5
14 Mar 12	Enghien (FR)	Prix Master Bob (Hurdle) (Conditions) (4yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) 17.5f · Heavy · 16 ran	2/16	7	10-8	Mlle Nathalie Desoutter	73/10

Quick answers

How many races has You Never (FR) won?: You Never (FR) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2012. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained You Never (FR)?: You Never (FR) was trained by J-L Laval on the most recent run on record, at Enghien (FR) on 10 April 2012.
Who is You Never (FR)'s sire?: You Never (FR) is by Greengroom (FR) out of Toi Jamais (FR), whose sire is Sevres Rose.
What is You Never (FR)'s sire's record?: Greengroom (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.3% of 29 runs since Jan 2008 (8 horses), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.