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Horse profile

Between You And Me (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2023) · Last trainer J Newman · Last owner J F Symes
by Presenting (GB) out of Sussex Sunset (GB) (Milan)
1 run · 1 course · from Jun 2023
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jun 2023 — 1,250 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2023 First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Between You And Me made a single start in a Class 4 novices hunters chase at Stratford in Jun 2023. The gelding, by Presenting out of a Milan mare, wore first-time headgear that day on good ground over 2m5f-3m and finished unplaced. Presenting’s progeny have won 2197 of 20049 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.8—
Good7,02484012%+10 from 1
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.8—
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.8—
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.1—
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.2—
2m5f – 3m6,53974211.3%+0.30 from 1
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 1 run
02 Jun 23 Stratford Grace & Dotty 'Restricted Point-To-Point' Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 4 · 2m6½f · Good · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-12 —— Mr Joshua Newman 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Between You And Me won?
Between You And Me (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2023.
Who trained Between You And Me?
Between You And Me (IRE) was trained by J Newman on the most recent run on record, at Stratford on 2 June 2023.
Who is Between You And Me's sire?
Between You And Me (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Sussex Sunset (GB), whose sire is Milan.
What is Between You And Me's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

Record shown from June 2023. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.