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Horse profile

Black Optimist (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, May 2006) · Last trainer Mrs S J Maiden · Last owner C P Maiden
by Roselier (FR) out of Borys Glen (GB) (Furry Glen)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Mar 2006
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 May 2006 — 7,489 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2006 First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Mar 2006 and May 2006, the last of them as a 12yo gelding. By Roselier (FR), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 2 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Roselier (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008 (71 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm300%−9.1—
Good to Firm2713.7%−5.4—
Good9277.6%−1.50 from 1
Good to Soft8678.1%−10 from 1
Soft9066.7%−2.4—
Heavy761317.1%+8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m700%−9.1—
2m1f – 2m4f811113.6%+4.5—
2m5f – 3m163127.4%−1.70 from 1
Over 3m123118.9%−0.20 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Borys Glen (GB) (Furry Glen)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2006 · 2 runs
03 May 06+51d Cheltenham Colin Nash Memorial United Hunters' Chase Class 4 · 3m1½f · Good · 14 ran PU/14 — 12-3 — Miss P Gundry 33/1
13 Mar 06 Stratford Midrange Direct Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 3m · Good To Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 12-3 — Miss P Gundry 28/1

Quick answers

How many races has Black Optimist won?
Black Optimist (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2006.
Who trained Black Optimist?
Black Optimist (IRE) was trained by Mrs S J Maiden on the most recent run on record, at Cheltenham on 3 May 2006.
Who is Black Optimist's sire?
Black Optimist (IRE) is by Roselier (FR) out of Borys Glen (GB), whose sire is Furry Glen.
What is Black Optimist's sire's record?
Roselier (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008 (71 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from March 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.