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Horse profile

Commanche Whorl (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2005) · Last trainer H Smyth · Last owner H Smyth
by Commanche Run (GB) out of Cailin Dubh (GB) (Le Bavard)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 Mar 2005 — 7,916 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2005 · 5th of 15 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 73
KTB Profile

Commanche Whorl (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 78C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Thurles, 6 Jan 2005 Official rating 73 at the last run, 3 Mar 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 78C · median 71.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft278C71.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Commanche Run (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses).

Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.4% from 125. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4% from 101.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.3—
Good to Firm4424.5%−2.8—
Good10376.8%−0.5—
Good to Soft7379.6%+2.3—
Soft9788.2%+0.90 from 2
Heavy5946.8%−0.50 from 1
Standard (AW)600%−7.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−7.3—
1m2f – 1m4f200%−7.3—
1m5f – 2m10144%−3.3—
2m1f – 2m4f9577.4%+0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m1251310.4%+3.10 from 2
Over 3m6046.7%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Cailin Dubh (GB) (Le Bavard)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 2 0 0% −2.00
Hood + visor 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2005 · 3 runs
03 Mar 05+40d Limerick Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-95) 2m4f · Soft · 15 ran 5/15 12 10-3 7365C Adrian O'Shea 25/1
22 Jan 05+16d Naas Go Racing In Kildare Handicap Chase (0-109) 3m · Heavy · 17 ran PU/17 — 9-7 80— Adrian O'Shea 33/1
06 Jan 05 Thurles Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-95) 3m · Soft · 18 ran 14/18 6 10-1 7678C Adrian O'Shea 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Commanche Whorl won?
Commanche Whorl (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2005.
Who trained Commanche Whorl?
Commanche Whorl (IRE) was trained by H Smyth on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 3 March 2005.
Who is Commanche Whorl's sire?
Commanche Whorl (IRE) is by Commanche Run (GB) out of Cailin Dubh (GB), whose sire is Le Bavard.
What is Commanche Whorl's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 73, from the run on 3 March 2005. The highest on record is 80.
What is Commanche Whorl's sire's record?
Commanche Run (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.4% from 125. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4% from 101.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.