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Horse profile

Derivative (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2006) · Last trainer Venetia Williams · Last owner P Ryan
by Erins Isle (IRE) out of Our Hope (GB) (Dancing Brave)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Dec 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Jan 2006 — 7,577 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2006 · 8th of 13 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 117
KTB Profile

Derivative (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 4th of 12 at Sandown (Dec 2005).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 120C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Sandown, 3 Dec 2005 Official rating 117 at the last run, 21 Jan 2006

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 120C · median 109.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m2120C109.5—

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Erins Isle (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 112 runs since Jan 2008 (16 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2150%+40.2—
Good to Firm1218.3%−1.5—
Good37616.2%+6.4—
Good to Soft1616.3%−3.50 from 1
Soft2727.4%−2.40 from 1
Heavy1500%−9.80 from 1
Standard (AW)300%−9.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f900%−9.8—
1m5f – 2m2229.1%−0.7—
2m1f – 2m4f39512.8%+3—
2m5f – 3m2827.1%−2.70 from 3
Over 3m14214.3%+4.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Our Hope (GB) (Dancing Brave)

7 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Premier Hope (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m2f–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Premier Hope (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Premier Hope (IRE)1512m1fClass 4
Harrington (IRE)1611m2f—
Verrocchio (IRE)60——
Deise Hope (IRE)130——
Lush (IRE)160——
Positive Step (IRE)50——
Caro Mio (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Alan O'Keeffe 2 0 0% −2.00
Sam Thomas 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 2 0 0% −2.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2006 2 0 0% −2.00
2005 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
21 Jan 06+14d Wincanton Gasforce Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 8 11-11 11799C Sam Thomas 12/1
07 Jan 06+35d Haydock 32redpoker.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 23.5f · Soft · 17 ran PU/17 — 10-11 120— Alan O'Keeffe 17/2
03 Dec 05 Sandown Williamhillpoker.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 22f · Heavy · 12 ran 4/12 3 11-4 120120C Alan O'Keeffe 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Derivative (IRE) won?
Derivative (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2005 and 2006.
Who trained Derivative (IRE)?
Derivative (IRE) was trained by Venetia Williams on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 21 January 2006.
Who is Derivative (IRE)'s sire?
Derivative (IRE) is by Erins Isle (IRE) out of Our Hope (GB), whose sire is Dancing Brave.
What is Derivative (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 117, from the run on 21 January 2006. The highest on record is 120.
What is Derivative (IRE)'s sire's record?
Erins Isle (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 112 runs since Jan 2008 (16 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Derivative (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Our Hope (GB), Derivative (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Premier Hope (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Premier Hope (IRE)). The wins came over 1m2f–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.