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Horse profile

Dont Want To Dance (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2008) · Last trainer J Halley · Last owner J Halley
by Great Palm (USA) out of Denys Daughter (IRE) (Crash Course)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Aug 2008
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Aug 2008 — 6,655 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2008 · 8th of 15
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Aug 2008, the last of them as a 4yo gelding. Finished 8 of 15 at Tramore last time. By Great Palm (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 6.8% of 1,946 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 70C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Tramore, 15 Aug 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 70C · median 69
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m270C69—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Great Palm (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 6.8% of 1,946 runs since Jan 2008 (256 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 9.9% from 262.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2100%−6.8—
Good to Firm234156.4%−0.4—
Good672436.4%−0.40 from 1
Good to Soft262269.9%+3.1—
Soft493336.7%−0.1—
Heavy248166.5%−0.30 from 1
Standard (AW)1600%−6.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f7228.6%+21.8—
1m – 1m1f14321.4%+14.6—
1m2f – 1m4f2000%−6.8—
1m5f – 2m796506.3%−0.50 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f732517%+0.2—
2m5f – 3m316268.2%+1.4—
Over 3m6111.6%−5.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Denys Daughter (IRE) (Crash Course)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Take The Stand (IRE) (8 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m2½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Take The Stand (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Take The Stand (IRE)4582m4f–3m2½fClass 3
Sizing Santiago (IRE)1842m–2m6½fClass 3
Witneses Daughter (IRE)70——
Last Move (IRE)50——
Jonos Allstar (IRE)40——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 2 runs
15 Aug 08+6d Tramore Waterford And Tramore Supporters Club INH Flat Race 2m · Good · 15 ran 8/15 6 11-2 70C Mr D Halley 16/1
09 Aug 08 Kilbeggan Tom Birmingham Menswear (Pro-Am) Flat Race 2m · Soft To Heavy · 10 ran 6/10 3 11-2 68A Mr D Halley 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dont Want To Dance won?
Dont Want To Dance (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained Dont Want To Dance?
Dont Want To Dance (IRE) was trained by J Halley on the most recent run on record, at Tramore on 15 August 2008.
Who is Dont Want To Dance's sire?
Dont Want To Dance (IRE) is by Great Palm (USA) out of Denys Daughter (IRE), whose sire is Crash Course.
What is Dont Want To Dance's sire's record?
Great Palm (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.8% of 1,946 runs since Jan 2008 (256 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 9.9% from 262.
Who are Dont Want To Dance's siblings?
Out of Denys Daughter (IRE), Dont Want To Dance (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Take The Stand (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Take The Stand (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m2½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from August 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.