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Horse profile

For Andrew (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2012) · Last trainer Patrick Neville · Last owner Patrick Neville
by Welsh Lion (IRE) out of Caitrionas Joy (IRE) (Royal Fountain)
1 run · 1 course · from Sep 2012
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Sep 2012 — 5,144 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2012
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Sep 2012 as a 5yo gelding. By Welsh Lion (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 7% of 186 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Welsh Lion (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7% of 186 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−7—
Good to Firm1700%−7—
Good57610.5%+3.5—
Good to Soft1815.6%−1.4—
Soft4249.5%+2.5—
Heavy4624.3%−2.70 from 1
Standard (AW)500%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−7—
1m – 1m1f600%−7—
1m2f – 1m4f17211.8%+4.8—
1m5f – 2m4948.2%+1.2—
2m1f – 2m4f6357.9%+0.90 from 1
2m5f – 3m4524.4%−2.6—
Over 3m500%−7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Caitrionas Joy (IRE) (Royal Fountain)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Jimboy (IRE)40——
For Clodagh (IRE)60——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
19 Sep 12 Listowel McElligotts Tralee Ltd. Mercedes Benz, Flat Race 20f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-7 — Mr B P O'Neill 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has For Andrew (IRE) won?
For Andrew (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2012.
Who trained For Andrew (IRE)?
For Andrew (IRE) was trained by Patrick Neville on the most recent run on record, at Listowel on 19 September 2012.
Who is For Andrew (IRE)'s sire?
For Andrew (IRE) is by Welsh Lion (IRE) out of Caitrionas Joy (IRE), whose sire is Royal Fountain.
What is For Andrew (IRE)'s sire's record?
Welsh Lion (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7% of 186 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are For Andrew (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Caitrionas Joy (IRE), For Andrew (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.