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Horse profile

Forever Waining (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2013) · Last trainer Peter Bowen · Last owner Ednyfed Elizabeth Morgan
by Choisir (AUS) out of Dahoar (GB) (Charnwood Forest)
10 runs · 6 courses · from Mar 2010
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Sep 2013 — 4,771 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2013 · 11th of 13 Last raced off OR 98
KTB Profile

Forever Waining (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 4 at Uttoxeter (Oct 2011). Last raced off 98, 10lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 117A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Uttoxeter, 26 May 2013 Official rating 98 at the last run, 27 Sep 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 124A · median 113
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good3103B95—
Good to Firm3119A117—
Good to Soft3124A124—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5119A106—
1m5f – 2m4124A123.5—
2m5f – 3m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Choisir (AUS)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 5,779 runs since Jan 2008 (392 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm7622.6%−8.1—
Good to Firm1,19514111.8%+1.10 from 3
Good1,27613510.6%−0.10 from 3
Good to Soft5536311.4%+0.70 from 3
Soft752749.8%−0.90 from 1
Heavy320309.4%−1.3—
Standard (AW)1,60717410.8%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,26314611.6%+0.9—
6f – 7f2,53828511.2%+0.5—
1m – 1m1f1,019959.3%−1.4—
1m2f – 1m4f445429.4%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m378359.3%−1.40 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f1061110.4%−0.30 from 5
2m5f – 3m26519.2%+8.50 from 1
Over 3m400%−10.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Dahoar (GB) (Charnwood Forest)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them House Maiden (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m2½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (House Maiden (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
House Maiden (IRE)1011m2½fClass 4
Equus Gold (IRE)20——
That's It Girl (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Uttoxeter 5 0 0% −5.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom O'Brien 6 0 0% −6.00
Donal Devereux 4 0 0% −4.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 3 0 0% −3.00
2011 5 0 0% −5.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00
NH Flat 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
27 Sep 13+89d Worcester Pamela Ann Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 23f · Good · 13 ran 11/13 4½ 11-10 9895C Donal Devereux 6/1
30 Jun 13+35d Uttoxeter Casino At bet365 Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 20f · Good · 12 ran 8/12 3¾ 11-10 9893C Donal Devereux 6/5F
26 May 13+602d Uttoxeter Dove Valley First Responder Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 4/14 nk 11-0 98117A Donal Devereux 5/1
02 Oct 11+25d Uttoxeter Spiffing Crabbie's Alcoholic Ginger Beer Conditional Jockeys' 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 4 ran 2/4 7 10-9 108106B Donal Devereux 2/1
07 Sep 11+19d Uttoxeter Stone Group Anniversary Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 2/10 3 10-12 —119A Tom O'Brien 7/1
19 Aug 11+177d Bangor-on-Dee Sportsbook Shop Moreton, Wirral Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 6 ran 3/6 6 11-0 —103B Tom O'Brien 9/4
23 Feb 11+27d Doncaster Look Out For The coral.co.uk Green Tick Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 3/17 5 11-2 —123A Tom O'Brien 16/1
27 Jan 11+77d Ffos Las Burchell's Transport Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 5/9 1¾ 11-4 —124A Tom O'Brien 8/1
11 Nov 10+236d Ludlow Vyrnwy Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 2/14 ¾ 11-2 —124A Tom O'Brien 5/1
20 Mar 10 Uttoxeter Bet Totepool On totesport.com Standard Open NH Flat Race (Div 2) Class 6 · 16f · Soft · 10 ran 4/10 7 10-9 —109A Tom O'Brien 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forever Waining (IRE) won?
Forever Waining (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2010 and 2013. Placed 3 times in total (30% of starts).
Who trained Forever Waining (IRE)?
Forever Waining (IRE) was trained by Peter Bowen on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 27 September 2013.
Who is Forever Waining (IRE)'s sire?
Forever Waining (IRE) is by Choisir (AUS) out of Dahoar (GB), whose sire is Charnwood Forest.
What is Forever Waining (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 98, from the run on 27 September 2013. The highest on record is 108.
What is Forever Waining (IRE)'s sire's record?
Choisir (AUS)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 5,779 runs since Jan 2008 (392 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forever Waining (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Dahoar (GB), Forever Waining (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: House Maiden (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (House Maiden (IRE)). The wins came over 1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.