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Horse profile

Forgotten Symphony (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2013) · Last trainer Brian Ellison · Last owner Brian Ellison
by Bach (IRE) out of Ethans Rose (IRE) (Roselier)
6 runs · 4 courses · from May 2010
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Oct 2013 — 4,738 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2013 Won at Market Rasen Last raced off OR 110
KTB Profile

Forgotten Symphony (IRE) is 1 from 6, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Jul 2012. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 3 on softer).

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster Win at Class 4

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 116A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Market Rasen, 5 Aug 2012 Official rating 110 at the last run, 30 Oct 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 116A · median 115
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good2116A115.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2116A102.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 6 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bach (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 2,289 runs since Jan 2008 (240 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 12.7% from 244.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm14321.4%+13.6—
Good to Firm2443112.7%+4.90 from 1
Good774547%−0.81 from 2
Good to Soft305237.5%−0.30 from 1
Soft569376.5%−1.30 from 2
Heavy363298%+0.2—
Standard (AW)20210%+2.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−7.8—
1m – 1m1f1300%−7.8—
1m2f – 1m4f3538.6%+0.8—
1m5f – 2m759557.2%−0.61 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f845597%−0.80 from 3
2m5f – 3m514509.7%+1.90 from 2
Over 3m121129.9%+2.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ethans Rose (IRE) (Roselier)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Ethan's Star (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Ethan's Star (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ethan's Star (IRE)2232m–2m4fClass 5
Viper Fuschia (IRE)30——
Emmas Star (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 1 50% +32.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 5 1 20% +29.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Market Rasen 3 1 33% +31.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 1 100% +33.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Danny Cook 2 0 0% −2.00
Miss H Bethell 2 1 50% +32.00
Nathan Moscrop 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr J J King 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 3 1 33% +31.00
2010 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
Hurdle 3 1 33% +31.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
30 Oct 13+6d Carlisle Bookmakers On Your Mobile At Bookmakers.co.uk Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-12 110— Danny Cook 7/1
24 Oct 13+445d Southwell 32Red Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 7 ran UR/7 — 11-5 110— Nathan Moscrop 7/1
05 Aug 12+15d Market Rasen Richard 'The Big Show Stag' Hutchinson Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good · 10 ran 2/10 3¾ 10-12 111116A Miss H Bethell 5/1
21 Jul 12+13d Market Rasen B Eyre & Son Ltd Ford Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 12 ran 1/12 10-5 —115A Miss H Bethell 33/1
08 Jul 12+790d Market Rasen donnoble.co.uk Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Soft · 7 ran 4/7 16 10-12 —89B Danny Cook 22/1
10 May 10 Killarney Dan Linehan's Bar Hunters Chase 22f · Good To Firm · 15 ran PU/15 — 10-11 —— Mr J J King 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forgotten Symphony (IRE) won?
Forgotten Symphony (IRE) won 1 of 6 archived starts between 2010 and 2013, a strike rate of 16.7%. Placed 2 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Forgotten Symphony (IRE)?
Forgotten Symphony (IRE) was trained by Brian Ellison on the most recent run on record, at Carlisle on 30 October 2013.
Who is Forgotten Symphony (IRE)'s sire?
Forgotten Symphony (IRE) is by Bach (IRE) out of Ethans Rose (IRE), whose sire is Roselier.
What is Forgotten Symphony (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 110, from the run on 30 October 2013. The highest on record is 111.
What is Forgotten Symphony (IRE)'s sire's record?
Bach (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 2,289 runs since Jan 2008 (240 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 12.7% from 244.
Who are Forgotten Symphony (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Ethans Rose (IRE), Forgotten Symphony (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Ethan's Star (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Ethan's Star (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.