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Horse profile

Four Grand Kids (GB)

5yo gelding (at last run, May 2012) · Last trainer David Anthony O'Brien · Last owner David P Moran
by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Cromarty (GB) (Shareef Dancer)
1 run · 1 course · from May 2012
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 4 May 2012 — 5,297 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2012 · 11th of 13
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in May 2012 as a 5yo gelding. Finished 11 of 13 at Kilbeggan last time. By Karinga Bay (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 81C the best of the last 1 rated run · Kilbeggan, 4 May 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Karinga Bay (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−10.1—
Good to Firm305278.9%−1.2—
Good1,0781049.6%−0.50 from 1
Good to Soft730628.5%−1.6—
Soft8229311.3%+1.2—
Heavy3945112.9%+2.8—
Standard (AW)7368.2%−1.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−10.1—
1m – 1m1f400%−10.1—
1m2f – 1m4f6646.1%−4—
1m5f – 2m839758.9%−1.20 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,10712411.2%+1.1—
2m5f – 3m1,08311710.8%+0.7—
Over 3m307237.5%−2.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Cromarty (GB) (Shareef Dancer)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Bad Day Bad Day (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Bad Day Bad Day (GB)1012m—
Vaulkie (GB)40——
Cromarty Bay (GB)30——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
04 May 12 Kilbeggan Loughnagore Flat Race 2m · Good · 13 ran 11/13 19 11-7 81C Mr N T Slevin 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Four Grand Kids won?
Four Grand Kids (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2012.
Who trained Four Grand Kids?
Four Grand Kids (GB) was trained by David Anthony O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 4 May 2012.
Who is Four Grand Kids's sire?
Four Grand Kids (GB) is by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Cromarty (GB), whose sire is Shareef Dancer.
What is Four Grand Kids's sire's record?
Karinga Bay (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Four Grand Kids's siblings?
Out of Cromarty (GB), Four Grand Kids (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Bad Day Bad Day (GB) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.