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Horse profile

Ididandididn't (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2016) · Last trainer John F Gleeson · Last owner John F Gleeson
by Presenting (GB) out of Tonaphuca Girl (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Sep 2016
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Sep 2016 — 3,687 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2016 · 17th of 20
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Sep 2016, the last of them as a 4yo gelding. Finished 17 of 20 at Gowran Park last time. By Presenting (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 10C · median 0.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m210C0.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 75C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Gowran Park, 30 Sep 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 75C · median 71.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m275C71.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.8—
Good7,02484012%+10 from 1
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.8—
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.80 from 1
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.1—
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.2—
2m5f – 3m6,53974211.3%+0.3—
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tonaphuca Girl (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Just Call Me Al (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–2m5f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Mammies Boy (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Just Call Me Al (IRE)5352m½f–2m4fClass 4
Mammies Boy (IRE)1632m3f–2m5fClass 3
Don Diablo (IRE)1212m½f—
Power Hour (IRE)130——
Fulton (IRE)30——
Wolf On The Run (IRE)20——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 2 runs
30 Sep 16+13d Gowran Park Thomastown Maiden Hurdle 2m · Good · 20 ran 17/20 58 11-0 10C75C William J Gleeson 100/1
17 Sep 16 Listowel John Lynch Memorial Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 9 ran 8/9 42 11-0 -9C68C William J Gleeson 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Ididandididn't won?
Ididandididn't (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2016.
Who trained Ididandididn't?
Ididandididn't (IRE) was trained by John F Gleeson on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 30 September 2016.
Who is Ididandididn't's sire?
Ididandididn't (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Tonaphuca Girl (IRE), whose sire is Saddlers' Hall.
What is Ididandididn't's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Ididandididn't's siblings?
Out of Tonaphuca Girl (IRE), Ididandididn't (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Just Call Me Al (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Mammies Boy (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–2m5f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from September 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.