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Horse profile

Idle Tears (GB)

2yo filly (at last run, Nov 2008) · Last trainer John Gosden · Last owner Hrh Princess Haya Of Jordan
by Selkirk (USA) out of Land of Dreams (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)
1 run · 1 course · from Nov 2008
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Nov 2008 — 6,563 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2008 · 9th of 17
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Nov 2008 as a 2yo filly. Finished 9 of 17 at Newmarket last time. By Selkirk (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 4,371 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 21 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Idle Tears (GB) has 10 produce in the archive, 3 winners — most wins Invernata (FR) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m2f–1m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Invernata (FR)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Invernata (FR)711m4½fClass 6
Padoga (FR)111m2f—
Wasabi (FR)511m4f—
Lapses Linguae (FR)100——
Haader (FR)120——
Surrey Pink (FR)150——
Goldrush Glory (FR)50——
Thebah (FR)50——
Majorette (FR)120——
Sasha Fierce (FR)50——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 66A the best of the last 1 rated run · Newmarket, 1 Nov 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Selkirk (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 4,371 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 228. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.7% from 143.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm38821.1%+9.8—
Good to Firm7528911.8%+0.5—
Good1,07611210.4%−0.9—
Good to Soft5827212.4%+1.10 from 1
Soft6718011.9%+0.6—
Heavy228187.9%−3.4—
Standard (AW)1,02411711.4%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4524.4%−6.9—
6f – 7f7297710.6%−0.70 from 1
1m – 1m1f1,10312711.5%+0.2—
1m2f – 1m4f1,18316213.7%+2.4—
1m5f – 2m785769.7%−1.6—
2m1f – 2m4f3584011.2%−0.1—
2m5f – 3m143117.7%−3.6—
Over 3m2514%−7.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Land of Dreams (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)

8 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Dream Ahead (USA) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Dream Ahead (USA)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Dream Ahead (USA)966f–7fGroup 1
Bin Battuta (GB)1046f–1m4fClass 2
William Blake (GB)2431m–1m2fClass 4
Into The Dark (GB)1111m2fListed
Only Make Believe (GB)60——
Police Force (USA)40——
Dream Shared (GB)60——
New Style (USA)30——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
01 Nov 08 Newmarket Casino At bet365.com E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 1) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 9/17 ½ 9-0 66A Robert Havlin 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Idle Tears (GB) won?
Idle Tears (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2008.
Who trained Idle Tears (GB)?
Idle Tears (GB) was trained by John Gosden on the most recent run on record, at Newmarket on 1 November 2008.
Who is Idle Tears (GB)'s sire?
Idle Tears (GB) is by Selkirk (USA) out of Land of Dreams (GB), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
What is Idle Tears (GB)'s sire's record?
Selkirk (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 4,371 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 228. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.7% from 143.
Who are Idle Tears (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Land of Dreams (GB), Idle Tears (GB) has 8 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Dream Ahead (USA) (6). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Dream Ahead (USA)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Idle Tears (GB) produced winners?
As a dam, Idle Tears (GB) has 10 produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Invernata (FR) (1). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Invernata (FR)). The wins came over 1m2f–1m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.