If Not For You (IRE)
If Not For You (IRE) is 3 from 12. Hasn't won since Dec 2014.
- 3–12Wins / Runs
- 25%Strike rate
- 5 (41.7%)Placed
- +10.00£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 1.73Fair A/E n=12 · 1.43 incl. margin
- 123Highest OR
- 47dBetween runs (median)longest 466 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed —
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.3% of 2,248 runs since Jan 2008 (160 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 11 | 3 | 27.3% | +18 | — |
| Good to Firm | 389 | 31 | 8% | −1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 557 | 63 | 11.3% | +2 | 1 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 275 | 23 | 8.4% | −0.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 416 | 38 | 9.1% | −0.2 | 2 from 5 |
| Heavy | 157 | 12 | 7.6% | −1.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 443 | 39 | 8.8% | −0.5 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 32 | 1 | 3.1% | −6.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 425 | 35 | 8.2% | −1.1 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 438 | 40 | 9.1% | −0.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 544 | 59 | 10.8% | +1.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 432 | 37 | 8.6% | −0.7 | 1 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 281 | 32 | 11.4% | +2.1 | 2 from 7 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 90 | 3 | 3.3% | −6 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 6 | 2 | 33.3% | +24 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Ibanhui (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m1½f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ibanhui (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 2m1½f | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 5 | 2 | 40% | +8.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Killarney | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Cork | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Gowran Park | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.00 |
| Galway | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 7 | 2 | 29% | +6.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 1 | 33% | +6.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Walsh | 8 | 2 | 25% | +5.00 |
| Niall P Madden | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr P Power | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 11 | 3 | 27% | +11.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2016 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2015 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2014 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +8.00 |
| 2013 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 6 | 1 | 17% | +3.00 |
| Hurdle | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.00 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2016 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 31 Oct 16+73d | Galway | Ennis Lifts Handicap Chase | 8/11 | 1¾ | 10-6 | 117 | 55C | 90C | Mark Walsh | 20/1 |
| 19 Aug 16+466d | Kilbeggan | At The Races Handicap Hurdle (80-116) | 10/10 | 27 | 11-8 | 112 | — | 90C | Mark Walsh | 10/1 |
| 2015 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 11 May 15+24d | Killarney | Mcsweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase | PU/9 | — | 10-6 | 121 | — | — | Niall P Madden | 8/1 |
| 17 Apr 15+104d | Tipperary | Fundraising Events At Tipperary Races Rated Novice Chase | 3/4 | 7 | 11-7 | 123 | — | 104C | Niall P Madden | 2/1F |
| 03 Jan 15+30d | Cork | Mccarthy Insurance Group Handicap Chase | F/5 | — | 11-5 | 123 | — | — | Mark Walsh | 2/1F |
| 2014 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 04 Dec 14+14d | Clonmel | Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Beginners Chase | 1/15 | 11-12 | — | — | 132A | Mark Walsh | 8/1 | |
| 20 Nov 14+47d | Thurles | www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase | 3/16 | 29 | 11-12 | — | — | 101C | Mark Walsh | 14/1 |
| 04 Oct 14+58d | Gowran Park | Rooftop Racing Packages At Gowran Park Maiden Hurdle | 1/8 | 11-12 | — | — | 119A | Mark Walsh | 3/1 | |
| 07 Aug 14+47d | Sligo | Easyfix Rubber Products Maiden Hurdle | 2/11 | 7 | 11-12 | — | — | 115A | Mark Walsh | 4/1 |
| 21 Jun 14+296d | Gowran Park | www.kilkennypembrokehotel.com Maiden Hurdle | 6/18 | 2¾ | 11-12 | — | — | 91C | Mark Walsh | 7/2 |
| 2013 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 29 Aug 13+24d | Killarney | Seamusweldon.com Flat Race | 1/16 | 11-7 | — | — | 112A | Mr P Power | 8/1 | |
| 05 Aug 13 | Cork | Follow Us On Facebook Flat Race | 8/20 | nse | 11-7 | — | — | 100A | Mr P Power | 7/2J |
Quick answers
- How many races has If Not For You won?
- If Not For You (IRE) won 3 of 12 archived starts between 2013 and 2016, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 5 times in total (41.7% of starts).
- Who trained If Not For You?
- If Not For You (IRE) was trained by Edward P Harty on the most recent run on record, at Galway on 31 October 2016.
- Who is If Not For You's sire?
- If Not For You (IRE) is by Celtic Swing (GB) out of Ker Lani (FR), whose sire is Ashkalani.
- What going does If Not For You prefer?
- If Not For You (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 5 starts (40%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is If Not For You's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 117, from the run on 31 October 2016. The highest on record is 123.
- What is If Not For You's sire's record?
- Celtic Swing (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.3% of 2,248 runs since Jan 2008 (160 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are If Not For You's siblings?
- Out of Ker Lani (FR), If Not For You (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Ibanhui (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m1½f. As at Nov 2026.