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Horse profile

Justnotthatsimple (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2009) · Last trainer Gordon Elliott · Last owner J R Mcloughlin
by Accordion (IRE) out of By All Means (GB) (Pitpan)
5 runs · 4 courses · from Mar 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Apr 2009 — 6,399 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2009
KTB Profile

Justnotthatsimple (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 87C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 19 Dec 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 87C · median 79
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft287C83—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m287C83—
Over 3m1———

Of 5 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Accordion (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2015%−5.8—
Good to Firm2642710.2%−0.6—
Good9379910.6%−0.20 from 2
Good to Soft576549.4%−1.4—
Soft89011012.4%+1.60 from 3
Heavy5916511%+0.2—
Standard (AW)3113.2%−7.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−10.8—
1m – 1m1f300%−10.8—
1m2f – 1m4f4648.7%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m7919011.4%+0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f1,23214011.4%+0.6—
2m5f – 3m9399610.2%−0.60 from 4
Over 3m293279.2%−1.60 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
By All Means (GB) (Pitpan)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Window Of Hope (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m7f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Window Of Hope (IRE)1532m–2m7f—
Bush Park (IRE)30——
Benjamin Button (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 2 0 0% −2.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 4 0 0% −4.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr D J Brogan 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr M Fahey 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr S McGonagle 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr P McNeilly 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2008 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 2 runs
20 Apr 09+7d Tramore Saltan Properties Hunters Chase 22f · Good · 14 ran UR/14 — 11-0 — Mr D J Brogan 16/1
13 Apr 09+108d Fairyhouse Www.thetote.com Hunters Chase 25f · Good · 21 ran 9/21 15 11-1 79C Mr M Fahey 50/1
2008 · 3 runs
26 Dec 08+7d Down Royal ITBA Northern Region Hunters Chase 23f · Soft · 20 ran BD/20 — 11-0 — Mr D J Brogan 33/1
19 Dec 08+264d Downpatrick Saintfield Windows Maiden Hunters Chase 21.5f · Yielding · 14 ran 7/14 12 11-7 87C Mr S McGonagle 10/1
30 Mar 08 Downpatrick Toals Frank Magee Memorial Maiden Hunters Chase 21.5f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 7/15 17 11-7 79C Mr P McNeilly 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Justnotthatsimple won?
Justnotthatsimple (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2008 and 2009.
Who trained Justnotthatsimple?
Justnotthatsimple (IRE) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Tramore on 20 April 2009.
Who is Justnotthatsimple's sire?
Justnotthatsimple (IRE) is by Accordion (IRE) out of By All Means (GB), whose sire is Pitpan.
What is Justnotthatsimple's sire's record?
Accordion (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Justnotthatsimple's siblings?
Out of By All Means (GB), Justnotthatsimple (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Window Of Hope (IRE) (3). The wins came over 2m–2m7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.