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Horse profile

Need (FR)

4yo colt (at last run, May 2006) · Last trainer J-P Pelat · Last owner Yves Fayt
by Emperor Jones (USA) out of Winter Ice (GB) (Wolfhound)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 May 2006 — 7,476 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2006 · 3rd of 3 New yard First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Need (FR) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 2nd of 3 at Longchamp (FR) (Jun 2005).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Emperor Jones (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 6.4% of 140 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm18211.1%+4.7—
Good4524.4%−20 from 2
Good to Soft1700%−6.4—
Soft2514%−2.40 from 1
Heavy9111.1%+4.7—
Standard (AW)26311.5%+5.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f35514.3%+7.9—
1m – 1m1f400%−6.40 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f2400%−6.40 from 1
1m5f – 2m3126.5%+0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f3525.7%−0.7—
2m5f – 3m800%−6.4—
Over 3m300%−6.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Winter Ice (GB) (Wolfhound)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Equation Of Time (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m1f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Equation Of Time (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Equation Of Time (GB)4456f–1m1fClass 5
Coconut Ice (GB)1115fClass 5
Beringson (FR)411m—
Magic Ice (GB)170——
Cool Reception (GB)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% —
Soft 1 0 0% —

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Longchamp (FR) 2 0 0% —
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 1 0 0% —

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% —
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% —

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Thierry Thulliez 2 0 0% —
David Michaux 1 0 0% —

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 2 0 0% —
Blinkers 1 0 0% —

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2006 1 0 0% —
2005 2 0 0% —

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
03 May 06+316d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix d'Armorique (Apprentice Handicap) (Left-Handed) 8f · Soft · 3 ran 3/3 2½ 8-11 David Michaux —
21 Jun 05+12d Longchamp (FR) Prix du Pre Saint-Gervais (Claimer) (Colts & Geldings) 10f · Good · 3 ran 2/3 1 9-2 Thierry Thulliez —
09 Jun 05 Longchamp (FR) Prix de la Pyramide (Claimer) (Colts & Geldings) 9f · Good · 3 ran 3/3 1 8-12 Thierry Thulliez —

Quick answers

How many races has Need (FR) won?
Need (FR) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2005 and 2006.
Who trained Need (FR)?
Need (FR) was trained by J-P Pelat on the most recent run on record, at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) on 3 May 2006.
Who is Need (FR)'s sire?
Need (FR) is by Emperor Jones (USA) out of Winter Ice (GB), whose sire is Wolfhound.
What is Need (FR)'s sire's record?
Emperor Jones (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.4% of 140 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Need (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Winter Ice (GB), Need (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Equation Of Time (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Equation Of Time (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.