Need (FR)
Need (FR) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 2nd of 3 at Longchamp (FR) (Jun 2005).
- 0–3Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- 164dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 6.4% of 140 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 18 | 2 | 11.1% | +4.7 | — |
| Good | 45 | 2 | 4.4% | −2 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 17 | 0 | 0% | −6.4 | — |
| Soft | 25 | 1 | 4% | −2.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | +4.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 26 | 3 | 11.5% | +5.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 35 | 5 | 14.3% | +7.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −6.4 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 24 | 0 | 0% | −6.4 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 31 | 2 | 6.5% | +0.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 35 | 2 | 5.7% | −0.7 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 8 | 0 | 0% | −6.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −6.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Equation Of Time (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m1f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Equation Of Time (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Equation Of Time (GB) | 44 | 5 | 6f–1m1f | Class 5 |
| Coconut Ice (GB) | 11 | 1 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Beringson (FR) | 4 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Magic Ice (GB) | 17 | 0 | — | — |
| Cool Reception (GB) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Longchamp (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thierry Thulliez | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
| David Michaux | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2006 | 1 | 0 | 0% | — |
| 2005 | 2 | 0 | 0% | — |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 03 May 06+316d | Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | Prix d'Armorique (Apprentice Handicap) (Left-Handed) | 3/3 | 2½ | 8-11 | David Michaux | — |
| 21 Jun 05+12d | Longchamp (FR) | Prix du Pre Saint-Gervais (Claimer) (Colts & Geldings) | 2/3 | 1 | 9-2 | Thierry Thulliez | — |
| 09 Jun 05 | Longchamp (FR) | Prix de la Pyramide (Claimer) (Colts & Geldings) | 3/3 | 1 | 8-12 | Thierry Thulliez | — |
Quick answers
- How many races has Need (FR) won?
- Need (FR) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2005 and 2006.
- Who trained Need (FR)?
- Need (FR) was trained by J-P Pelat on the most recent run on record, at Maisons-Laffitte (FR) on 3 May 2006.
- Who is Need (FR)'s sire?
- Need (FR) is by Emperor Jones (USA) out of Winter Ice (GB), whose sire is Wolfhound.
- What is Need (FR)'s sire's record?
- Emperor Jones (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.4% of 140 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Need (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Winter Ice (GB), Need (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Equation Of Time (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Equation Of Time (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m1f. As at Oct 2026.