How many races has Needs Further won?

Needs Further (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2017.

Who trained Needs Further?

Needs Further (IRE) was trained by Tom George on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 9 December 2017.

Who is Needs Further's sire?

Needs Further (IRE) is by Doyen (IRE) out of My Linda (IRE), whose sire is Bob Back.

Who are Needs Further's siblings?

Out of My Linda (IRE), Needs Further (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Horse profile

Needs Further (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2017) · Last trainer Tom George · Last owner Paul Clare Rooney

by Doyen (IRE) out of My Linda (IRE) (Bob Back)

1 run · 1 course · from Dec 2017

As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 9 Dec 2017 — 3,252 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Dec 2017 · 6th of 10 First-time headgear LTO

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Dec 2017 as a 4yo gelding. Finished 6 of 10 at Chepstow last time. By Doyen (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 11.5% of 7,376 runs since Jul 2009.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 5 Nov 2026

0–1Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
0 (0%)Placed
−1.00£1 level staken=1 at SP

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 86^C the best of the last 1 rated run · Chepstow, 9 Dec 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Doyen (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.5% of 7,376 runs since Jul 2009 (605 horses).

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Firm	22	2	9.1%	−2.4	—
Good to Firm	351	42	12%	+0.5	—
Good	2,248	275	12.2%	+0.7	—
Good to Soft	1,440	194	13.5%	+2	—
Soft	2,008	215	10.7%	−0.8	—
Heavy	761	66	8.7%	−2.8	0 from 1
Standard (AW)	546	57	10.4%	−1.1	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Under 6f	76	6	7.9%	−3.6	—
6f – 7f	360	36	10%	−1.5	—
1m – 1m1f	411	45	10.9%	−0.6	—
1m2f – 1m4f	584	60	10.3%	−1.2	—
1m5f – 2m	2,184	252	11.5%	0	0 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f	2,206	266	12.1%	+0.6	—
2m5f – 3m	1,289	158	12.3%	+0.8	—
Over 3m	266	28	10.5%	−1	—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jul 2009 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

My Linda (IRE) (Bob Back)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

Produce	Runs	Wins	Win trips	Best grade
Sweettoothtommy (IRE)	11	0	—	—
Coroner's Report (IRE)	8	0	—	—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	Spd	KTB	Jockey	SP
2017 · 1 run
09 Dec 17	Chepstow	robertstephensracing.com Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Heavy · 10 ran	6/10	8	10-11	29^C	86^C	Ciaran Gethings	6/1

Quick answers

How many races has Needs Further won?: Needs Further (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2017.
Who trained Needs Further?: Needs Further (IRE) was trained by Tom George on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 9 December 2017.
Who is Needs Further's sire?: Needs Further (IRE) is by Doyen (IRE) out of My Linda (IRE), whose sire is Bob Back.
What is Needs Further's sire's record?: Doyen (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.5% of 7,376 runs since Jul 2009 (605 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Needs Further's siblings?: Out of My Linda (IRE), Needs Further (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.