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Horse profile

Probably (IRE)

2yo colt (at last run, Sep 2012) · Last trainer David Wachman · Last owner Michael Tabor Mrs John Magnier Derrick Smith
by Danehill Dancer (IRE) out of Wedding Morn (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)
6 runs · 2 courses · from May 2012
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Sep 2012 — 5,134 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2012 · 3rd of 4 2 wins · Curragh & Limerick Last raced off OR 103
KTB Profile

Probably (IRE) is 2 from 6, including a Group 2 win. The biggest win we hold: the Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes at Curragh (Jun 2012). Hasn't won since Jun 2012.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Curragh, 15 Sep 2012 Official rating 103 at the last run, 30 Sep 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 105B · median 87.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Heavy2105B94—
Soft288A87.5—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
6f – 7f5105B88—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Danehill Dancer (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 10,094 runs since Jan 2008 (783 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6.2% from 130.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm911011%−0.2—
Good to Firm1,74022312.8%+1.6—
Good2,4992489.9%−1.30 from 1
Good to Soft1,08912011%−0.21 from 1
Soft1,73322412.9%+1.70 from 2
Heavy6567811.9%+0.71 from 2
Standard (AW)2,2852249.8%−1.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4035313.2%+2—
6f – 7f2,71033112.2%+12 from 5
1m – 1m1f2,71531211.5%+0.30 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f2,31123710.3%−0.9—
1m5f – 2m1,27013410.6%−0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f533519.6%−1.6—
2m5f – 3m13086.2%−5—
Over 3m2214.5%−6.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Wedding Morn (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Canary Wharf (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m1f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Packing Joy (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Canary Wharf (IRE)1021m1½f–1m2fClass 5
Packing Joy (GB)411m1fClass 4
Hymenaios (IRE)711m2fClass 5
Suakin Dancer (IRE)80——
High Holborn (IRE)100——
Perhaps Forever (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 2 1 50% +6.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 1 100% +0.50
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 1 1 100% +7.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Curragh 5 1 20% +3.00
Limerick 1 1 100% +0.50

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 5 2 40% +4.50
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Wayne Lordan 4 0 0% −4.00
W J Lee 2 2 100% +7.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
30 Sep 12+15d Curragh Juddmonte Beresford Stakes (group 2) 8f · Heavy · 4 ran 3/4 hd 9-6 10383B Wayne Lordan 11/2
15 Sep 12+34d Curragh Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes (Registered As The National Stakes) (Group 1) 7f · Yielding · 7 ran 4/7 1½ 9-3 10688A Wayne Lordan 12/1
12 Aug 12+43d Curragh Keeneland Phoenix Stakes (group 1) 6f · Soft · 6 ran 4/6 ½ 9-3 10687B Wayne Lordan 5/4F
30 Jun 12+14d Curragh Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes (group 2) Class 1 · 6f · Soft To Heavy · 6 ran 1/6 9-3 —105B W J Lee 7/1
16 Jun 12+20d Limerick Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. (C & G) Maiden 7f · Good To Yielding · 7 ran 1/7 9-5 —85A W J Lee 1/2F
27 May 12 Curragh Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund (C & G) Maiden 6f · Good · 12 ran 3/12 2¼ 9-5 —91A Wayne Lordan 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Probably (IRE) won?
Probably (IRE) won 2 of 6 archived starts in 2012, a strike rate of 33.3%. Placed 3 times in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Probably (IRE)?
Probably (IRE) was trained by David Wachman on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 30 September 2012.
Who is Probably (IRE)'s sire?
Probably (IRE) is by Danehill Dancer (IRE) out of Wedding Morn (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What is Probably (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 103, from the run on 30 September 2012. The highest on record is 106.
What is Probably (IRE)'s sire's record?
Danehill Dancer (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 10,094 runs since Jan 2008 (783 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6.2% from 130.
Who are Probably (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Wedding Morn (IRE), Probably (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Canary Wharf (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Packing Joy (GB)). The wins came over 1m1f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.