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Horse profile

Rubbing Shoulders (IRE)

5yo mare (at last run, Aug 2017) · Last trainer Gordon Elliott · Last owner J P Russell
by Saint Des Saints (FR) out of Saine D'esprit (FR) (Dom Alco)
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2017
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Aug 2017 — 3,374 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2017 · 4th of 8 Beaten favourite LTO
KTB Profile

Rubbing Shoulders (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 7 at Perth (Jul 2017).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 133 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Perth, 16 Jul 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 133A · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good2133A108—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2133A93—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 93B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Perth, 16 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 93B · median 92
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good293B92.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m293B89.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Saint Des Saints (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 15.1% of 5,345 runs since Jan 2008 (643 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−15.1—
Good to Firm35514.3%−0.8—
Good6899814.2%−0.90 from 2
Good to Soft6509214.2%−0.90 from 1
Soft2,44334814.2%−0.9—
Heavy1,50625817.1%+2—
Standard (AW)16212.5%−2.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−15.1—
1m2f – 1m4f4149.8%−5.3—
1m5f – 2m1,00116916.9%+1.80 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2,78140414.5%−0.60 from 1
2m5f – 3m1,23619115.5%+0.4—
Over 3m2843713%−2.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Saine D'esprit (FR) (Dom Alco)

4 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Ashroe Diamond (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (Ashroe Diamond (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ashroe Diamond (IRE)1362m–2m4½fGrade 1
My Great Mate (IRE)1542m–2m4½f—
Memory Of Youth (IRE)2922m4f—
Take Tea (IRE)712m—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Perth 2 0 0% −2.00
Downpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00
James Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr F Stack 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 3 runs
02 Aug 17+17d Perth Auchterarder Golf Club Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 4/8 2½ 10-7 53A86A Richard Johnson 5/4F
16 Jul 17+29d Perth Buffalo Farm Burgers Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 2¼ 10-0 133A93B James Bowen 7/2
17 Jun 17 Downpatrick Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Flat Race 17.5f · Good · 11 ran 6/11 4¼ 11-2 83A92A Mr F Stack 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Rubbing Shoulders won?
Rubbing Shoulders (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2017. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Rubbing Shoulders?
Rubbing Shoulders (IRE) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 2 August 2017.
Who is Rubbing Shoulders's sire?
Rubbing Shoulders (IRE) is by Saint Des Saints (FR) out of Saine D'esprit (FR), whose sire is Dom Alco.
What is Rubbing Shoulders's sire's record?
Saint Des Saints (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 15.1% of 5,345 runs since Jan 2008 (643 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Rubbing Shoulders's siblings?
Out of Saine D'esprit (FR), Rubbing Shoulders (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Ashroe Diamond (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (Ashroe Diamond (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.