Say You Say Me (GB)
Say You Say Me is a Flemensfirth mare who showed placed form in two of her three starts over hurdles. She finished second of 13 at Worcester in Jun 2022 on her debut and third of 11 at Perth in Aug 2022 in a Class 4 maiden hurdle. All three runs came over 1m5f – 2m on good ground. She was aged 5 at her last run in Aug 2022.
- 0–3Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (66.7%)Placed
- −3.00£1 level staken=3 at SP
- 17dBetween runs (median)
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 138
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 3 | 138B | 107 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 138B | 107 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 38 | 0 | 0% | −11.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 522 | 50 | 9.6% | −2.3 | — |
| Good | 4,057 | 443 | 10.9% | −1 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 2,935 | 354 | 12.1% | +0.2 | — |
| Soft | 5,876 | 751 | 12.8% | +0.9 | — |
| Heavy | 3,817 | 449 | 11.8% | −0.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 42 | 2 | 4.8% | −7.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −11.9 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 25 | 1 | 4% | −7.9 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4,486 | 548 | 12.2% | +0.3 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6,082 | 724 | 11.9% | 0 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5,260 | 623 | 11.8% | −0.1 | — |
| Over 3m | 1,432 | 153 | 10.7% | −1.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Black Tears (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (Black Tears (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black Tears (GB) | 21 | 5 | 2m–2m4f | Grade 1 |
| As Tears Go By (GB) | 19 | 3 | 2m–2m1½f | — |
Record by conditions
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Perth | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2022 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 13 Aug 22+17d | Perth | John Elliot 75 Today Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) | 3/11 | 9½ | 10-11 | 107B | 105A | Sean Bowen | 16/5 |
| 27 Jul 22+28d | Perth | Join Racing TV Now Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) | 3/6 | 3 | 10-7 | 96A | 101B | Sean Bowen | EvensF |
| 29 Jun 22 | Worcester | Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Mares' Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) | 2/13 | 2¾ | 11-0 | 138B | 109A | Sean Bowen | 11/8F |
Quick answers
- How many races has Say You Say Me won?
- Say You Say Me (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2022. Placed 2 times in total (66.7% of starts).
- Who trained Say You Say Me?
- Say You Say Me (GB) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 13 August 2022.
- Who is Say You Say Me's sire?
- Say You Say Me (GB) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Our Girl Salley (IRE), whose sire is Carroll House.
- What is Say You Say Me's sire's record?
- Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Say You Say Me's siblings?
- Out of Our Girl Salley (IRE), Say You Say Me (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Black Tears (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (Black Tears (GB)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Nov 2026.