How many races has So You Say won?

So You Say (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2011.

Who trained So You Say?

So You Say (GB) was trained by Philip Sharp on the most recent run on record, at Fontwell on 27 October 2011.

Who is So You Say's sire?

So You Say (GB) is by Desert Heat (GB) out of Sorceress (GB), whose sire is Wizard King.

What is So You Say's sire's record?

Desert Heat (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 0% of 1 run since Oct 2011 (1 horse), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.

Horse profile

So You Say (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Oct 2011) · Last trainer Philip Sharp · Last owner P J Sharp

by Desert Heat (GB) out of Sorceress (GB) (Wizard King)

1 run · 1 course · from Oct 2011

As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 27 Oct 2011 — 5,488 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Oct 2011

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Oct 2011 as a 3yo filly.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 5 Nov 2026

0–1Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
0 (0%)Placed
−1.00£1 level staken=1 at SP

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Desert Heat (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 0% of 1 run since Oct 2011 (1 horse). A small sample.

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Soft	1	0	0%	0	0 from 1

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
1m5f – 2m	1	0	0%	0	0 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Oct 2011 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

Sorceress (GB) (Wizard King)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	KTB	Jockey	SP
2011 · 1 run
27 Oct 11	Fontwell	digibet.com 'Junior' Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 1m5½f · Soft · 14 ran	PU/14	—	9-12	—	Mr Matthew Barber	100/1

Quick answers

How many races has So You Say won?: So You Say (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2011.
Who trained So You Say?: So You Say (GB) was trained by Philip Sharp on the most recent run on record, at Fontwell on 27 October 2011.
Who is So You Say's sire?: So You Say (GB) is by Desert Heat (GB) out of Sorceress (GB), whose sire is Wizard King.
What is So You Say's sire's record?: Desert Heat (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 0% of 1 run since Oct 2011 (1 horse), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.