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Horse profile

Thats The Idea (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2006) · Last trainer Sean Thornton · Last owner Sean Thornton
by Fourstars Allstar (USA) out of Coolbawn Rose (IRE) (Supreme Leader)
7 runs · 5 courses · from Nov 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Jun 2006 — 7,432 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2006 · 11th of 20 New yard Last raced off OR 74
KTB Profile

Thats The Idea (IRE) is yet to win from 7 starts.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 100C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Punchestown, 14 Jan 2006 Official rating 74 at the last run, 23 Jun 2006

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 100C · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy3100C88—
Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4100C80.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 7 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Fourstars Allstar (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 940 runs since Jan 2008 (120 horses).

Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 113.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1300%−7.10 from 1
Good to Firm140139.3%+2.2—
Good290175.9%−1.2—
Good to Soft123118.9%+1.80 from 1
Soft235156.4%−0.70 from 2
Heavy129118.5%+1.40 from 3
Standard (AW)1000%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−7.1—
1m2f – 1m4f700%−7.1—
1m5f – 2m195168.2%+1.10 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f350205.7%−1.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m273197%−0.1—
Over 3m1131210.6%+3.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Coolbawn Rose (IRE) (Supreme Leader)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Shanbally Lad (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Down Royal 3 0 0% −3.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Daniel Howard 4 0 0% −4.00
Conor Maxwell 1 0 0% −1.00
G Cotter 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Dunne 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 0 0% −6.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2006 6 0 0% −6.00
2005 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2006 · 6 runs
23 Jun 06+53d Down Royal Asidua Maiden Hurdle 16f · Firm · 20 ran 11/20 1 10-11 7469C Conor Maxwell 33/1
01 May 06+81d Down Royal Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 16f · Good To Yielding · 19 ran 13/19 1½ 10-6 7583C Daniel Howard 25/1
09 Feb 06+4d Thurles Irish Stallion Farms Beginners Chase 16f · Yielding · 16 ran UR/16 — 11-12 —— Daniel Howard 66/1
05 Feb 06+22d Limerick Coffey Construction Beginners Chase 17f · Soft · 16 ran F/16 — 11-12 —— G Cotter 14/1
14 Jan 06+13d Punchestown INH Stallion Owners EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 16f · Soft To Heavy · 21 ran 19/21 4 11-12 75100C Daniel Howard 50/1
01 Jan 06+57d Fairyhouse Hangover Maiden Hurdle 20f · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran 12/17 1½ 11-5 —88C Robert Dunne 66/1
2005 · 1 run
05 Nov 05 Down Royal Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 19 ran 17/19 20 11-12 —78C Daniel Howard 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thats The Idea won?
Thats The Idea (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2005 and 2006.
Who trained Thats The Idea?
Thats The Idea (IRE) was trained by Sean Thornton on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 23 June 2006.
Who is Thats The Idea's sire?
Thats The Idea (IRE) is by Fourstars Allstar (USA) out of Coolbawn Rose (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
What is Thats The Idea's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 74, from the run on 23 June 2006. The highest on record is 75.
What is Thats The Idea's sire's record?
Fourstars Allstar (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 940 runs since Jan 2008 (120 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 113.
Who are Thats The Idea's siblings?
Out of Coolbawn Rose (IRE), Thats The Idea (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.