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Horse profile

The Wrong Bid (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer Miss Martina Anne Doran · Last owner M F Roche
by Darnay (GB) out of Vulcan Belle (GB) (Royal Vulcan)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Sep 2008
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Oct 2008 — 6,572 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Sep 2008 and Oct 2008, the last of them as a 5yo gelding. By Darnay (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 4.1% of 666 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 2 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Darnay (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 4.1% of 666 runs since Jan 2008 (97 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1700%−4.1—
Good to Firm9177.7%+3.6—
Good16553%−1.1—
Good to Soft7822.6%−1.5—
Soft14742.7%−1.40 from 1
Heavy7500%−4.10 from 1
Standard (AW)9399.7%+5.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f36513.9%+9.8—
6f – 7f5447.4%+3.3—
1m – 1m1f19210.5%+6.4—
1m2f – 1m4f4412.3%−1.8—
1m5f – 2m25872.7%−1.4—
2m1f – 2m4f17263.5%−0.6—
2m5f – 3m7322.7%−1.40 from 2
Over 3m1000%−4.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Vulcan Belle (GB) (Royal Vulcan)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hot Choc (IRE)70——
Total Sentiment (IRE)120——
Beg To Differ (IRE)10——
Bomber Belle (IRE)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
23 Oct 08+35d Thurles Horse & Jockey Beginners Chase 22f · Heavy · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-5 — Mr M M O'Connor 66/1
18 Sep 08 Listowel Kevin McManus Beginners Chase 22f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-2 — Mr M J Doran 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has The Wrong Bid (IRE) won?
The Wrong Bid (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained The Wrong Bid (IRE)?
The Wrong Bid (IRE) was trained by Miss Martina Anne Doran on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 23 October 2008.
Who is The Wrong Bid (IRE)'s sire?
The Wrong Bid (IRE) is by Darnay (GB) out of Vulcan Belle (GB), whose sire is Royal Vulcan.
What is The Wrong Bid (IRE)'s sire's record?
Darnay (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 4.1% of 666 runs since Jan 2008 (97 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are The Wrong Bid (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Vulcan Belle (GB), The Wrong Bid (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.