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Horse profile

Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2009) · Last trainer Sue Gardner · Last owner Mike Rowe
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Myra Gaye (GB) (Buckskin)
22 runs · 16 courses · from Oct 2007
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Jul 2009 — 6,300 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2009 Won at Exeter Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 88
KTB Profile

Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) is 1 from 22, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Mar 2009. Last raced off 88, 16lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 22 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 5 OR ↓ 16lb off peak
Official rating88↓ 16lb off peak
88 88–104

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Worcester, 1 Jul 2009 Official rating 88 at the last run, 22 Jul 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 114A · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good7104A85—
Heavy5114A85—
Soft393C90—
Good to Firm295B87.5—
Good to Soft1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m9112A86—
2m1f – 2m4f8114A94—
2m5f – 3m287C82—

Of 22 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 19 figures from 22 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.90 from 1
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.30 from 2
Good4,05144110.9%−10 from 7
Good to Soft2,93135412.1%+0.20 from 2
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.90 from 5
Heavy3,81444911.8%−0.11 from 5
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.30 from 10
2m1f – 2m4f6,07772411.9%01 from 8
2m5f – 3m5,25462211.8%−0.10 from 3
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.20 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Myra Gaye (GB) (Buckskin)

7 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Afistfullofdollars (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m2f–3m1f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Afistfullofdollars (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Afistfullofdollars (IRE)1452m2f–3m1fGrade 2
Uncommited (IRE)2722m6½f–2m7f—
Northern Vic (IRE)150——
Baileanbhricoig (IRE)30——
Droumleigh Lad (IRE)50——
Buckland Knight (IRE)10——
Keiran (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 5 1 20% +7.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 10 1 10% +2.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Worcester 3 0 0% −3.00
Hereford 3 0 0% −3.00
Exeter 2 1 50% +10.00
Punchestown 2 0 0% −2.00
Towcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 10 0 0% −10.00
2m1f – 2m4f 8 1 13% +4.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr L R Payter 10 1 10% +2.00
Robbie Power 2 0 0% −2.00
Sean Flanagan 2 0 0% −2.00
Matt Griffiths 1 0 0% −1.00
Charlie Huxley 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew P Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00
A B Joyce 1 0 0% −1.00
R Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R P Quinn 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr F T Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr C Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 10 0 0% −10.00
Blinkers 8 1 13% +4.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 12 1 8% +0.00
2008 8 0 0% −8.00
2007 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 19 1 5% −7.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
22 Jul 09+21d Worcester Worcester-racecourse.co.uk Amateur Riders' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-12 88— Matt Griffiths 40/1
01 Jul 09+42d Worcester Winterfold House Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 14 ran 10/14 nk 11-0 9184C Charlie Huxley 13/2
20 May 09+23d Worcester Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 20f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 8/13 3½ 11-2 9280A Mr L R Payter 18/1
27 Apr 09+14d Towcester McIntyre Hudson Claiming Hurdle Class 5 · 21f · Good · 14 ran 6/14 27 10-6 9277C Mr L R Payter 17/2
13 Apr 09+5d Chepstow Freebets.co.uk Sports Betting Claiming Hurdle Class 5 · 19.5f · Good · 16 ran 7/16 5 10-7 9585A Mr L R Payter 16/1
08 Apr 09+13d Hereford freebets.co.uk Online Sports Betting Novices' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 14 ran 5/14 5 10-12 9691A Mr L R Payter 14/1
26 Mar 09+9d Hereford Hereford Land Rover Novices' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 19.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 2/9 16 11-0 9795B Mr L R Payter 7/1
17 Mar 09+14d Exeter Become A Member Here At Exeter Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Good · 14 ran 6/14 25 10-11 9787C Mr L R Payter 12/1
03 Mar 09+8d Exeter Exeter Amateur Riders' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 17f · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 11-2 92114A Mr L R Payter 11/1
23 Feb 09+9d Hereford Racing Post 'Hands And Heels' Series Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 25.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran UR/14 — 11-6 92— Mr L R Payter 28/1
14 Feb 09+30d Uttoxeter Bet On totescoop6 At totesport.com Novices' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Heavy · 18 ran 3/18 12 10-10 9285A Mr L R Payter 33/1
15 Jan 09+61d Ludlow Ludlow For Functions Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 14 ran F/14 — 10-12 104— Mr L R Payter 25/1
15 Nov 08+100d Punchestown Pat Moore Builders Ltd Novice Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 16f · Heavy · 20 ran 14/20 4 9-13 8879A Andrew P Thornton 25/1
07 Aug 08+44d Tipperary (IRE) Hideout Pub Sologhead Handicap Hurdle 20f · Soft · 19 ran 14/19 4½ 10-11 9093C Robbie Power 12/1
24 Jun 08+18d Sligo Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 16 ran 5/16 1¼ 11-0 90104A A B Joyce 5/2F
06 Jun 08+20d Wexford Mount Leinster Maiden Hurdle 20f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 4/16 3 11-4 97110A R Walsh 7/1
17 May 08+13d Kilbeggan Loughnagore Maiden Hurdle 19f · Firm · 15 ran 4/15 5 11-1 9798A Sean Flanagan 4/1
04 May 08+14d Sligo (IRE) Join The 2008 Sligo Race Supporters Club Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 15 ran 4/15 shd 11-1 —112A Sean Flanagan 33/1
20 Apr 08+42d Cork Fermoy Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 18 ran 13/18 4½ 11-12 9779C Robbie Power 20/1
09 Mar 08+74d Naas Rockview (qr) Inh Flat Race 16f · Yielding To Soft · 24 ran 20/24 1½ 11-7 —90C Mr R P Quinn 33/1
26 Dec 07+56d Limerick Patrick Molloy & Partners INH Flat Race 16f · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran 14/17 17 11-4 —81C Mr F T Moore 50/1
31 Oct 07 Punchestown Punchestown Inh Flat Race 16f · Yielding · 19 ran 13/19 30 11-0 —86C Mr C Hughes 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) won?
Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) won 1 of 22 archived starts between 2007 and 2009, a strike rate of 4.5%. Placed 3 times in total (13.6% of starts).
Who trained Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)?
Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) was trained by Sue Gardner on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 22 July 2009.
Who is Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)'s sire?
Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Myra Gaye (GB), whose sire is Buckskin.
What going does Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) prefer?
Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 22 July 2009. The highest on record is 104.
What is Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)'s sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Thethirdoftheforth (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Myra Gaye (GB), Thethirdoftheforth (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Afistfullofdollars (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Afistfullofdollars (IRE)). The wins came over 2m2f–3m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.