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Thoughtthatcounts (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2022) · Last trainer Andrew Lee · Last owner Professor Maria Hinfelaar
3 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2022
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 31 Aug 2022 — 1,505 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2022 · 10th of 12
KTB Profile

Thoughtthatcounts (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Flat 2 figures · best 102C · median 93.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m1———
1m2f – 1m4f1———

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 63C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Gowran Park, 31 Aug 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 3 figures · best 63C · median 60
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m263C58.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 1,000 runs since Jan 2008 (75 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.4% from 178.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3266.7%+57.3—
Good to Firm136118.1%−1.30 from 1
Good202178.4%−10 from 1
Good to Soft6834.4%−5—
Soft871011.5%+2.10 from 1
Heavy2328.7%−0.7—
Standard (AW)4814910.2%+0.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1782212.4%+3—
6f – 7f456419%−0.4—
1m – 1m1f182158.2%−1.2—
1m2f – 1m4f1081110.2%+0.80 from 1
1m5f – 2m6757.5%−1.90 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f900%−9.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Shinobi (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 1m1½f–2m5½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Shinobi (IRE)).

Family form: Jonin (GB) won at Argentan (FR), 1 Oct 2026.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Shinobi (IRE)2251m5f–2m5½fClass 4
Whisky On The Hill (GB)731m2½f–1m4f—
Jonin (GB)711m1½fClass 4
Arc Kunoichi (GB)20——
April Galaxy (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mark Enright 2 0 0% −2.00
Charlie O'Dwyer 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Hood 2 0 0% −2.00
None 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
31 Aug 22+19d Gowran Park Racing Again September 17th Maiden 14f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 10/12 2¾ 9-9 102C63C Mark Enright 200/1
12 Aug 22+104d Cork Newmarket Maiden 12f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 4¾ 10-4 85C60C Mark Enright 150/1
30 Apr 22 Punchestown Buggyman (Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Yielding To Soft · 23 ran 20/23 5½ 10-13 —54C Charlie O'Dwyer 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thoughtthatcounts (GB) won?
Thoughtthatcounts (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2022.
Who trained Thoughtthatcounts (GB)?
Thoughtthatcounts (GB) was trained by Andrew Lee on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 31 August 2022.
Who is Thoughtthatcounts (GB)'s sire?
Thoughtthatcounts (GB) is by Charming Thought (GB) out of Ninja Lady (GB), whose sire is Nayef.
What is Thoughtthatcounts (GB)'s sire's record?
Charming Thought (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 1,000 runs since Jan 2008 (75 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.4% from 178.
Who are Thoughtthatcounts (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Ninja Lady (GB), Thoughtthatcounts (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Shinobi (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Shinobi (IRE)). The wins came over 1m1½f–2m5½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.