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Horse profile

Tobeornotobe (IRE)

10yo mare (at last run, Mar 2005) · Last trainer A J McNamara · Last owner Den Syndicate
by Mister Lord (USA) out of Rainy Weather (GB) (Menelek)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Mar 2005 — 7,892 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2005 · 3rd of 9 Last raced off OR 90
KTB Profile

Tobeornotobe (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 9 at Limerick (Mar 2005).

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Tobeornotobe (IRE) has 1 produce in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Master Tradesman (IRE)230——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Tramore, 30 Jan 2005 Official rating 90 at the last run, 20 Mar 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 88C · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 4 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Mister Lord (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8% of 565 runs since Jan 2008 (79 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 13.9% from 108. Weakest on soft going: 4% from 151. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.8% from 149. Weakest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 4.5% from 111.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−8—
Good to Firm4300%−8—
Good165159.1%+1.1—
Good to Soft9499.6%+1.60 from 1
Soft15164%−40 from 2
Heavy1081513.9%+5.90 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f100%−8—
1m5f – 2m5247.7%−0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f1491912.8%+4.80 from 2
2m5f – 3m252176.7%−1.30 from 2
Over 3m11154.5%−3.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rainy Weather (GB) (Menelek)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Wildinthestreets (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Andrew J McNamara 3 0 0% −3.00
S M McGovern 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2005 · 4 runs
20 Mar 05+24d Limerick Advanced Securities EBF Mares Novice Chase 22f · Good To Yielding · 9 ran 3/9 12 10-8 90— Andrew J McNamara 14/1
24 Feb 05+25d Thurles Clonoulty Handicap Chase (0-102) 22f · Soft · 16 ran 11/16 3 11-7 9182C Andrew J McNamara 9/2F
30 Jan 05+3d Tramore Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-95) 20f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 6/16 shd 11-5 9088C S M McGovern 7/2
27 Jan 05 Thurles Durkan Anaglog's Daughter EBF Mares Novice Chase (Grade 3) 20f · Soft · 13 ran 4/13 4 10-11 90— Andrew J McNamara 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Tobeornotobe won?
Tobeornotobe (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2005. Placed 1 time in total (25% of starts).
Who trained Tobeornotobe?
Tobeornotobe (IRE) was trained by A J McNamara on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 20 March 2005.
Who is Tobeornotobe's sire?
Tobeornotobe (IRE) is by Mister Lord (USA) out of Rainy Weather (GB), whose sire is Menelek.
What is Tobeornotobe's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 20 March 2005. The highest on record is 91.
What is Tobeornotobe's sire's record?
Mister Lord (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8% of 565 runs since Jan 2008 (79 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.9% from 108. Weakest on soft going: 4% from 151. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.8% from 149. Weakest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 4.5% from 111.
Who are Tobeornotobe's siblings?
Out of Rainy Weather (GB), Tobeornotobe (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
Has Tobeornotobe produced winners?
As a dam, Tobeornotobe (IRE) has 1 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.