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Horse profile

Underpromise (FR)

3yo filly (at last run, Sep 2024) · Last trainer J-P Gauvin · Last owner Salabi Racing
by Lope De Vega (IRE) out of Monst (IRE) (Monsun)
1 run · 1 course · from Sep 2024
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Sep 2024 — 776 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2024 · 12th of 17 First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Underpromise (FR) is a lightly raced filly by Lope De Vega out of a Monsun mare whose five previous foals to race have produced two winners including Hopeful with four wins. She made her only start in Sep 2024 when finishing 12 of 17 in the Prix du Lieu Feral at Saint-Cloud on soft ground over 1m to 1m1f with first-time headgear. Lope De Vega’s progeny in the archive have recorded 1,673 wins from 12,117 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,158 runs since Jan 2008 (1,100 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 955.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18422.2%+8.4—
Good to Firm1,55923815.3%+1.5—
Good2,75338313.9%+0.1—
Good to Soft1,55618311.8%−2—
Soft1,86925213.5%−0.30 from 1
Heavy7098311.7%−2.1—
Standard (AW)3,69253114.4%+0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4767114.9%+1.1—
6f – 7f3,59251014.2%+0.4—
1m – 1m1f3,58251414.3%+0.50 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f3,27546614.2%+0.4—
1m5f – 2m955899.3%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f245249.8%−4—
2m5f – 3m3213.1%−10.7—
Over 3m100%−13.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Monst (IRE) (Monsun)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Hopeful (FR) (4 wins).

The wins came over 7½f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Hopeful (FR)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hopeful (FR)1047½f–1m4fGroup 3
Simon Pierre (FR)411mClass 4
Fast Game (FR)30——
Architect (FR)50——
Talloires (FR)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
06 Sep 24 Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix du Lieu Feral (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 8f · Soft · 17 ran 12/17 hd 9-3 Mme Marie Velon 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Underpromise (FR) won?
Underpromise (FR) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2024.
Who trained Underpromise (FR)?
Underpromise (FR) was trained by J-P Gauvin on the most recent run on record, at Saint-Cloud (FR) on 6 September 2024.
Who is Underpromise (FR)'s sire?
Underpromise (FR) is by Lope De Vega (IRE) out of Monst (IRE), whose sire is Monsun.
What is Underpromise (FR)'s sire's record?
Lope De Vega (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,158 runs since Jan 2008 (1,100 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 955.
Who are Underpromise (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Monst (IRE), Underpromise (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Hopeful (FR) (4). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Hopeful (FR)). The wins came over 7½f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.