Underpromise (FR)
Underpromise (FR) is a lightly raced filly by Lope De Vega out of a Monsun mare whose five previous foals to race have produced two winners including Hopeful with four wins. She made her only start in Sep 2024 when finishing 12 of 17 in the Prix du Lieu Feral at Saint-Cloud on soft ground over 1m to 1m1f with first-time headgear. Lope De Vega’s progeny in the archive have recorded 1,673 wins from 12,117 runs since Jan 2008.
- 0–1Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −1.00£1 level staken=1 at SP
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,158 runs since Jan 2008 (1,100 horses).
Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 955.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 4 | 22.2% | +8.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1,559 | 238 | 15.3% | +1.5 | — |
| Good | 2,753 | 383 | 13.9% | +0.1 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1,556 | 183 | 11.8% | −2 | — |
| Soft | 1,869 | 252 | 13.5% | −0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 709 | 83 | 11.7% | −2.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3,692 | 531 | 14.4% | +0.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 476 | 71 | 14.9% | +1.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 3,592 | 510 | 14.2% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 3,582 | 514 | 14.3% | +0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3,275 | 466 | 14.2% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 955 | 89 | 9.3% | −4.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 245 | 24 | 9.8% | −4 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 32 | 1 | 3.1% | −10.7 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −13.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Hopeful (FR) (4 wins).
The wins came over 7½f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Hopeful (FR)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hopeful (FR) | 10 | 4 | 7½f–1m4f | Group 3 |
| Simon Pierre (FR) | 4 | 1 | 1m | Class 4 |
| Fast Game (FR) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Architect (FR) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Talloires (FR) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 06 Sep 24 | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix du Lieu Feral (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) | 12/17 | hd | 9-3 | Mme Marie Velon | 12/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Underpromise (FR) won?
- Underpromise (FR) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2024.
- Who trained Underpromise (FR)?
- Underpromise (FR) was trained by J-P Gauvin on the most recent run on record, at Saint-Cloud (FR) on 6 September 2024.
- Who is Underpromise (FR)'s sire?
- Underpromise (FR) is by Lope De Vega (IRE) out of Monst (IRE), whose sire is Monsun.
- What is Underpromise (FR)'s sire's record?
- Lope De Vega (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,158 runs since Jan 2008 (1,100 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 955.
- Who are Underpromise (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Monst (IRE), Underpromise (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Hopeful (FR) (4). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Hopeful (FR)). The wins came over 7½f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.