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Horse profile

Unexpected Edge (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, May 2024) · Last trainer Dean Coleman · Last owner Chris Williams
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Thynetocatcher (IRE) (Catcher In The Rye)
1 run · 1 course · from May 2024
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 May 2024 — 878 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2024 First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Unexpected Edge is a lightly raced gelding by Flemensfirth out of a dam who has produced one winner from one runner to race. His sole start came in the Class 5 Fraser Cup Maiden Hunters Chase at Cartmel in May 2024 over 2m5f to 3m on good ground where he wore first-time headgear. Flemensfirths progeny in the archive have won 2046 of 17269 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.3—
Good4,05144110.9%−10 from 1
Good to Soft2,93135412.1%+0.2—
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.9—
Heavy3,81444911.8%−0.1—
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f6,07772411.9%0—
2m5f – 3m5,25462211.8%−0.10 from 1
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Thynetocatcher (IRE) (Catcher In The Rye)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them More Wine Lilly (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m3f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
More Wine Lilly (IRE)1012m3f—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
27 May 24 Cartmel Fraser Cup Maiden Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 21f · Good · 9 ran UR/9 — 11-9 —— Mr Sean O'Connor 7/2

Quick answers

How many races has Unexpected Edge (IRE) won?
Unexpected Edge (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2024.
Who trained Unexpected Edge (IRE)?
Unexpected Edge (IRE) was trained by Dean Coleman on the most recent run on record, at Cartmel on 27 May 2024.
Who is Unexpected Edge (IRE)'s sire?
Unexpected Edge (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Thynetocatcher (IRE), whose sire is Catcher In The Rye.
What is Unexpected Edge (IRE)'s sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Unexpected Edge (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Thynetocatcher (IRE), Unexpected Edge (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: More Wine Lilly (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m3f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.