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Horse profile

Until Forever (IRE)

5yo mare (at last run, May 2015) · Last trainer Dan Skelton · Last owner Howard Spooner Ian Weaver
by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Sugar Island (IRE) (Oscar)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Apr 2015
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 May 2015 — 4,178 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2015 · 1st of 6 Won last time out Won at Wincanton First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Apr 2015 and May 2015, the last of them as a 5yo mare. Finished 1 of 6 at Wincanton last time. By Robin Des Champs (FR), whose progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,006 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Until Forever (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins No No Tango (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (No No Tango (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
No No Tango (GB)1112m4fClass 4
Foreverwalking (IRE)70——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 108A the best of the last 2 rated runs · Huntingdon, 6 Apr 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 2 figures · best 108A · median 101.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Robin Des Champs (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,006 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4125%+11.7—
Good to Firm71912.7%−0.6—
Good1,07115914.8%+1.51 from 1
Good to Soft76210213.4%+0.10 from 1
Soft1,36515311.2%−2.1—
Heavy71710414.5%+1.2—
Standard (AW)16318.8%+5.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−13.3—
1m2f – 1m4f13215.4%+2.1—
1m5f – 2m1,04514413.8%+0.50 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,54820813.4%+0.1—
2m5f – 3m1,12513812.3%−11 from 1
Over 3m2743914.2%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Sugar Island (IRE) (Oscar)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them On Impulse (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
On Impulse (IRE)722m–2m4f—
Harpurs Lane (IRE)40——
Sizing Julie (IRE)40——
Presenting Europe (IRE)20——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
07 May 15+31d Wincanton Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 21.5f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 10-5 95B Harry Skelton 8/1
06 Apr 15 Huntingdon Flexicruise Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 4/10 4½ 10-9 108A Harry Skelton 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Until Forever (IRE) won?
Until Forever (IRE) won 1 of 2 archived starts in 2015, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Until Forever (IRE)?
Until Forever (IRE) was trained by Dan Skelton on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 7 May 2015.
Who is Until Forever (IRE)'s sire?
Until Forever (IRE) is by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Sugar Island (IRE), whose sire is Oscar.
What is Until Forever (IRE)'s sire's record?
Robin Des Champs (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,006 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Until Forever (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Sugar Island (IRE), Until Forever (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: On Impulse (IRE) (2). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Until Forever (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, Until Forever (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: No No Tango (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (No No Tango (GB)). The wins came over 2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.