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Horse profile

What Er Say (GB)

9yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2014) · Last trainer Grant Cann · Last owner Mrs Pam Pengelly
by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Spread The Word (GB) (Deploy)
10 runs · 9 courses · from Dec 2011
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Jun 2014 — 4,531 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2014 · 5th of 14 Won at Fontwell New yard Last raced off OR 103
KTB Profile

What Er Say (GB) is 1 from 10, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Jan 2012. Last raced off 103, 15lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4 OR ↓ 15lb off peak
Official rating103↓ 15lb off peak
103 103–118

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 110A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Worcester, 10 Jun 2014 Official rating 103 at the last run, 10 Jun 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 135A · median 110
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good to Soft4135A108—
Soft3127A113—
Good2110A109.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m4127A107—
2m1f – 2m4f3135A112—
Over 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 10 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Karinga Bay (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−10.1—
Good to Firm305278.9%−1.2—
Good1,0781049.6%−0.50 from 2
Good to Soft730628.5%−1.60 from 4
Soft8229311.3%+1.21 from 4
Heavy3945112.9%+2.8—
Standard (AW)7368.2%−1.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−10.1—
1m – 1m1f400%−10.1—
1m2f – 1m4f6646.1%−4—
1m5f – 2m839758.9%−1.20 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,10712411.2%+1.10 from 3
2m5f – 3m1,08311710.8%+0.71 from 5
Over 3m307237.5%−2.60 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Spread The Word (GB) (Deploy)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Midnight Whisper (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 3m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Midnight Whisper (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Midnight Whisper (GB)1413mClass 5
Manofmanywords (GB)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 4 1 25% +37.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 6 1 17% +35.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hereford 2 0 0% −2.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 1 100% +40.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 5 1 20% +36.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Nick Scholfield 9 1 11% +32.00
Mr A Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 2 0 0% −2.00
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 5 1 20% +36.00
2011 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 1 17% +35.00
Chase 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2014 · 2 runs
10 Jun 14+46d Worcester 32Red Free 10 Bonus Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m7f · Good · 14 ran 5/14 1¾ 11-5 103110A Nick Scholfield 16/1
25 Apr 14+422d Newton Abbot Totnes And Bridgetown Races Company Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 6/12 ¾ 11-7 109104A Mr A Doyle 33/1
2013 · 2 runs
27 Feb 13+49d Wincanton Higos Insurance Services Handicap Chase Class 3 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 4/4 34 10-13 11784C Nick Scholfield 5/1
09 Jan 13+59d Doncaster 1stsecuritysolutions.co.uk Novices' Chase Class 4 · 2m3f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 4/4 43 11-0 —112C Nick Scholfield 50/1
2012 · 5 runs
11 Nov 12+19d Ffos Las Grosvenor Casino Swansea Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 3m · Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-12 118— Nick Scholfield 3/1
23 Oct 12+226d Exeter 'Robert Barclay Seniority Stakes' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m2½f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 3/14 nk 11-12 115135A Nick Scholfield 5/1J
11 Mar 12+46d Warwick Racing Uk Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 3m1f · Good · 14 ran 8/14 5 11-9 116109C Nick Scholfield 12/1
25 Jan 12+13d Hereford Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 16 ran 5/16 6 11-11 —113A Nick Scholfield 9/1
12 Jan 12+32d Fontwell Blue Square Staying Novices' Hurdle (Series Qualifier) Class 4 · 2m5½f · Soft · 11 ran 1/11 10-12 —127A Nick Scholfield 40/1
2011 · 1 run
11 Dec 11 Hereford Toteexacta Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m3½f · Soft · 15 ran 9/15 nk 11-0 —101C Nick Scholfield 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has What Er Say won?
What Er Say (GB) won 1 of 10 archived starts between 2011 and 2014, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 2 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trained What Er Say?
What Er Say (GB) was trained by Grant Cann on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 10 June 2014.
Who is What Er Say's sire?
What Er Say (GB) is by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Spread The Word (GB), whose sire is Deploy.
What going does What Er Say prefer?
What Er Say (GB) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is What Er Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 103, from the run on 10 June 2014. The highest on record is 118.
What is What Er Say's sire's record?
Karinga Bay (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are What Er Say's siblings?
Out of Spread The Word (GB), What Er Say (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Midnight Whisper (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Midnight Whisper (GB)). The wins came over 3m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from December 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.