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Whatwillwecallher (IRE)

10yo mare (at last run, Feb 2015) · Last trainer Robert Tyner · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Old Vic (GB) out of Hollygrove Cezanne (IRE) (King's Ride)
8 runs · 4 courses · from Dec 2010
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Feb 2015 — 4,275 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2015 5 wins · Naas, Limerick & Punchestown Beaten favourite LTO
KTB Profile

Whatwillwecallher (IRE) is 5 from 8. Hasn't won since Jan 2015.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Whatwillwecallher (IRE) has 5 produce in the archive, 3 winners — most wins Crecora Hills (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m1½f–3m.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Crecora Hills (IRE)1232m3½f–2m6f—
Agameoftwohalves (IRE)522m3f–3m—
Search For A Myth (IRE)1422m1½f–2m3½f—
All Walks Of Life (IRE)130——
Notimelikedpresent (IRE)80——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 132A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Curragh, 3 Apr 2011

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 79B the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 6 May 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 148A · median 128.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft3132A125—
Heavy3148A143—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m3148A143—
2m1f – 2m4f2125B122.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 8 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Old Vic (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm30413.3%+1.6—
Good to Firm3974411.1%−0.6—
Good1,79724213.5%+1.81 from 1
Good to Soft1,1691159.8%−1.9—
Soft2,05324912.1%+0.42 from 4
Heavy1,44715710.9%−0.82 from 3
Standard (AW)2300%−11.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−11.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2428.3%−3.4—
1m5f – 2m1,49917311.5%−0.22 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f2,24926011.6%−0.12 from 3
2m5f – 3m2,39828411.8%+0.11 from 1
Over 3m7429212.4%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Hollygrove Cezanne (IRE) (King's Ride)

7 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them It's Like That (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m2f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (It's Like That (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
It's Like That (IRE)2952m5½f–3m2fClass 4
Sizing Coal (IRE)2642m4f–3m½f—
Different Class (IRE)1442m–2m6fClass 4
Upping The Anti (IRE)2132m3½f–2m4f—
Runthatpastmeagain (IRE)612m3½fClass 5
Haddington Road (IRE)712m6f—
Garranlea Maree (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 2 50% −0.76
Heavy 3 2 67% +2.00
Good 1 1 100% +3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Limerick 3 3 100% +3.57
Naas 2 1 50% −0.33
Punchestown 2 1 50% +2.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 4 2 50% +1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 2 67% +2.67
2m5f – 3m 1 1 100% +0.57

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Phillip Enright 2 1 50% −0.43
Mr J C Tyner 2 1 50% +1.50
A P McCoy 1 1 100% +0.67
Mr G M Mangan 1 1 100% +3.00
Mr S R Byrne 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss E A Lalor 1 1 100% +0.50

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 4 67% +4.57
Hood 2 1 50% −0.33

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 2 1 50% −0.33
2011 5 4 80% +5.57
2010 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 4 2 50% +1.00
Chase 2 1 50% −0.33
Hurdle 1 1 100% +0.57
Flat 1 1 100% +3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
07 Feb 15+34d Naas BBA Ireland Limited Opera Hat Mares Chase 16f · Soft · 4 ran F/4 — 10-10 — Phillip Enright EvensF
04 Jan 15+1148d Naas Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Mares Beginners Chase 19f · Soft · 5 ran 1/5 11-7 125B A P McCoy 4/6F
13 Nov 11+191d Limerick Winter Wonderland Maiden Hurdle 21f · Soft · 13 ran 1/13 11-5 123A Phillip Enright 4/7F
06 May 11+33d Punchestown Irish Thoroughbred Breeders Association Fillies Scheme Fillies Premier Bumper 17f · Good · 25 ran 1/25 11-2 79B Mr G M Mangan 3/1F
03 Apr 11+22d Curragh Rockview (Q.R.) Flat Race 16f · Soft · 15 ran 4/15 2½ 11-2 132A Mr S R Byrne 7/1
12 Mar 11+45d Limerick Rockview (Q.R. Ladies) Mares Flat Race 16f · Soft To Heavy · 10 ran 1/10 11-2 148A Miss E A Lalor 1/2F
26 Jan 11+26d Limerick Adare Mares Flat Race 16f · Heavy · 18 ran 1/18 11-2 143A Mr J C Tyner 5/2F
31 Dec 10 Punchestown Special Offers On www.punchestown.com Mares (Pro/Am) Flat Race 18f · Soft To Heavy · 14 ran 2/14 1¾ 11-2 120A Mr J C Tyner 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whatwillwecallher (IRE) won?
Whatwillwecallher (IRE) won 5 of 8 archived starts between 2010 and 2015, a strike rate of 62.5%. Placed 6 times in total (75% of starts).
Who trained Whatwillwecallher (IRE)?
Whatwillwecallher (IRE) was trained by Robert Tyner on the most recent run on record, at Naas on 7 February 2015.
Who is Whatwillwecallher (IRE)'s sire?
Whatwillwecallher (IRE) is by Old Vic (GB) out of Hollygrove Cezanne (IRE), whose sire is King's Ride.
What going does Whatwillwecallher (IRE) prefer?
Whatwillwecallher (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Whatwillwecallher (IRE)'s sire's record?
Old Vic (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whatwillwecallher (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Hollygrove Cezanne (IRE), Whatwillwecallher (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: It's Like That (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 4 (It's Like That (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m2f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Whatwillwecallher (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, Whatwillwecallher (IRE) has 5 produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Crecora Hills (IRE) (3). The wins came over 2m1½f–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.