Whenwillitwin (GB)
Whenwillitwin (GB) is 1 from 10, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Jan 2006.
- 1–10Wins / Runs
- 10%Strike rate
- 1 (10%)Placed
- +11.00£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 1.80Fair A/E n=10 · 1.47 incl. margin
- 49Highest OR
- 73dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 3.1% of 64 runs since Jan 2008 (9 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 23 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | — |
| Good | 20 | 2 | 10% | +6.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 8 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | — |
| Soft | 11 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 1 from 7 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 14 | 1 | 7.1% | +4 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 33 | 1 | 3% | −0.1 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 1 from 6 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 8 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −3.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tewitfield Lass (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 7 | 1 | 14% | +14.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 7 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Class 6 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +19.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 5 | 1 | 20% | +16.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tramore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wexford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 6 | 1 | 17% | +15.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Liam Keniry | 4 | 1 | 25% | +17.00 |
| Joseph Walsh | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Mr B O Walsh | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Robbie Moran | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cheekpieces | 5 | 1 | 20% | +16.00 |
| None | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2006 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +17.00 |
| 2005 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 7 | 1 | 14% | +14.00 |
| Hurdle | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 07 Sep 07+19d | Kilbeggan | Taggart Holdings Beginners Chase | F/14 | — | 11-9 | — | — | Robbie Moran | 50/1 |
| 19 Aug 07+72d | Tramore | Waterford & Tramore Supporters Club Maiden Hurdle | 8/14 | 1¾ | 11-5 | — | 77C | Mr B O Walsh | 14/1 |
| 08 Jun 07+410d | Wexford | Hilary Murphy Travel Novice Hurdle | 6/8 | nk | 10-7 | — | 79C | Mr B O Walsh | 100/1 |
| 24 Apr 06+41d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Betfred Pay Double Result Banded Stakes | 13/13 | 7 | 9-1 | 46 | 33C | Liam Keniry | 11/1 |
| 14 Mar 06+21d | Southwell (AW) | Littlewoodscasino.com Banded Stakes | 11/13 | 2 | 9-2 | 48 | 39C | Liam Keniry | 11/2 |
| 21 Feb 06+45d | Lingfield (AW) | Play Roulette At Littlewoodscasino.com Handicap (Div 2) | 5/11 | nk | 8-11 | 49 | 61C | Liam Keniry | 11/2 |
| 07 Jan 06+9d | Lingfield (AW) | Betdirect Football Cashbacks Skytext P372 Selling Stakes | 1/10 | 9-2 | 49 | 59C | Liam Keniry | 20/1 | |
| 29 Dec 05+22d | Lingfield (AW) | More Offers At Betdirect.co.uk Banded Stakes | 10/13 | shd | 8-9 | 47 | 36C | Joseph Walsh | 12/1 |
| 07 Dec 05+16d | Lingfield (AW) | Biffa Waste Services Banded Stakes | 7/14 | ¾ | 8-10 | 49 | 38C | Joseph Walsh | 25/1 |
| 21 Nov 05 | Lingfield (AW) | Betdirect Freephone 0800 211 222 Banded Stakes | 4/14 | 1½ | 8-11 | 49 | 61C | Joseph Walsh | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Whenwillitwin (GB) won?
- Whenwillitwin (GB) won 1 of 10 archived starts between 2005 and 2007, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 1 time in total (10% of starts).
- Who trained Whenwillitwin (GB)?
- Whenwillitwin (GB) was trained by D P Berry on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 7 September 2007.
- Who is Whenwillitwin (GB)'s sire?
- Whenwillitwin (GB) is by Bluegrass Prince (IRE) out of Madam Marash (IRE), whose sire is Astronef.
- What going does Whenwillitwin (GB) prefer?
- Whenwillitwin (GB) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 7 starts (14.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Whenwillitwin (GB)'s official rating?
- Whenwillitwin (GB)'s highest official rating on record is 49.
- What is Whenwillitwin (GB)'s sire's record?
- Bluegrass Prince (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 3.1% of 64 runs since Jan 2008 (9 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Whenwillitwin (GB)'s siblings?
- Out of Madam Marash (IRE), Whenwillitwin (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.