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Horse profile

Where's Charlie (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2009) · Last trainer Patrick Leech · Last owner Middleton Stud
by Where Or When (IRE) out of Kennedys Prima (GB) (Primo Dominie)
1 run · 1 course · from Aug 2009
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 29 Aug 2009 — 6,277 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2009 · 6th of 9
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Aug 2009 as a 3yo gelding. Finished 6 of 9 at Newmarket last time. By Where Or When (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 60C the best of the last 1 rated run · Newmarket, 29 Aug 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Where Or When (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18211.1%+1.9—
Good to Firm258238.9%−0.30 from 1
Good365359.6%+0.4—
Good to Soft1932211.4%+2.2—
Soft21794.1%−5.1—
Heavy841011.9%+2.7—
Standard (AW)443449.9%+0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f53815.1%+5.9—
6f – 7f15174.6%−4.6—
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−20 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f5226211.9%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m391359%−0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f174126.9%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m7168.5%−0.7—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Kennedys Prima (GB) (Primo Dominie)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 1 run
29 Aug 09 Newmarket Wt's Snooker And Sporting Club Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 1m · Good To Firm · 9 ran 6/9 5 9-3 60C Kirsty Milczarek 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Where's Charlie won?
Where's Charlie (GB) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2009.
Who trained Where's Charlie?
Where's Charlie (GB) was trained by Patrick Leech on the most recent run on record, at Newmarket on 29 August 2009.
Who is Where's Charlie's sire?
Where's Charlie (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Kennedys Prima (GB), whose sire is Primo Dominie.
What is Where's Charlie's sire's record?
Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

Record shown from August 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.