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Horse profile

Where's The Line (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2016) · Last trainer Denis W Cullen · Last owner T B Conroy
by Where Or When (IRE) out of Born To Win (IRE) (Torus)
1 run · 1 course · from Oct 2016
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Oct 2016 — 3,658 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2016 · 7th of 7
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Oct 2016 as a 5yo gelding. Finished 7 of 7 at Punchestown last time. By Where Or When (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 77C the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 22 Oct 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Where Or When (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18211.1%+1.9—
Good to Firm258238.9%−0.3—
Good365359.6%+0.4—
Good to Soft1932211.4%+2.20 from 1
Soft21794.1%−5.1—
Heavy841011.9%+2.7—
Standard (AW)443449.9%+0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f53815.1%+5.9—
6f – 7f15174.6%−4.6—
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−2—
1m2f – 1m4f5226211.9%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m391359%−0.20 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f174126.9%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m7168.5%−0.7—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Born To Win (IRE) (Torus)

8 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Better Times (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m2f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Better Times (IRE)1032m–2m2f—
Born To Succeed (IRE)60——
Bawn Reagh (IRE)10——
Artic Heir (IRE)90——
Winding Brook (IRE)20——
Born Strong (IRE)40——
Rachel's Surprise (IRE)40——
Better Deal (IRE)30——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 1 run
22 Oct 16 Punchestown Cash Out With Betdaq Flat Race 16f · Good To Yielding · 7 ran 7/7 26 11-7 70C77C Ms L O'Neill 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Where's The Line won?
Where's The Line (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2016.
Who trained Where's The Line?
Where's The Line (IRE) was trained by Denis W Cullen on the most recent run on record, at Punchestown on 22 October 2016.
Who is Where's The Line's sire?
Where's The Line (IRE) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Born To Win (IRE), whose sire is Torus.
What is Where's The Line's sire's record?
Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
Who are Where's The Line's siblings?
Out of Born To Win (IRE), Where's The Line (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Better Times (IRE) (3). The wins came over 2m–2m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.