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Horse profile

Whostosay (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2018) · Last trainer Sean Aherne · Last owner William Odonnell
by Witness Box (USA) out of Black N Amber (IRE) (Alderbrook)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Apr 2018 — 3,111 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2018 · 10th of 11 New yard
KTB Profile

Whostosay (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 18C · median -32.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 87C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Kilbeggan, 30 Apr 2018

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 63C the best of the last 1 rated run · Cork, 17 Apr 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 87C · median 85.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Witness Box (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses).

Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2528%−1.1—
Good to Firm17374%−5.1—
Good651548.3%−0.80 from 1
Good to Soft396369.1%0—
Soft7687810.2%+1.10 from 1
Heavy6536610.1%+10 from 1
Standard (AW)900%−9.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−9.1—
1m2f – 1m4f900%−9.1—
1m5f – 2m491408.1%−10 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f867778.9%−0.20 from 2
2m5f – 3m1,0201009.8%+0.7—
Over 3m284269.2%+0.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Black N Amber (IRE) (Alderbrook)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Justcall'm John (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
J J Slevin 1 0 0% −1.00
Hugo Thompson Brown 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss S Ahern 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 1 0 0% −1.00
Hood + tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Hood 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 2 0 0% −2.00
2017 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2018 · 2 runs
30 Apr 18+86d Kilbeggan Follow Kilbeggan On Facebook Maiden Hurdle 2m3½f · Yielding To Soft · 11 ran 10/11 28 11-4 18C87C J J Slevin 100/1
03 Feb 18+292d Wetherby wetherbyracing.co.uk Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m · Heavy · 12 ran 12/12 88 10-7 -83C84C Hugo Thompson Brown 66/1
2017 · 1 run
17 Apr 17 Cork Pegus Horse Feed Point-To-Point Flat Race 2m3f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 29 11-7 70C63C Miss S Ahern 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whostosay won?
Whostosay (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2017 and 2018.
Who trained Whostosay?
Whostosay (IRE) was trained by Sean Aherne on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 30 April 2018.
Who is Whostosay's sire?
Whostosay (IRE) is by Witness Box (USA) out of Black N Amber (IRE), whose sire is Alderbrook.
What is Whostosay's sire's record?
Witness Box (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,675 runs since Jan 2008 (194 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to firm going: 4% from 173.
Who are Whostosay's siblings?
Out of Black N Amber (IRE), Whostosay (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.