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Horse profile

Win For Sure (GER)

4yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2009) · Last trainer A Wohler · Last owner Stiftung Gestut Fahrhof
by Stravinsky (USA) out of Win For Us (GER) (Surumu)
1 run · 1 course · from Aug 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Aug 2009 — 6,296 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2009 · 1st of 3 Won last time out Won at Deauville (FR)
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Aug 2009 as a 4yo gelding. Finished 1 of 3 at Deauville (FR) last time. By Stravinsky (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 1,074 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Stravinsky (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 1,074 runs since Jan 2008 (66 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2314.3%−6.4—
Good to Firm195199.7%−1—
Good202188.9%−1.8—
Good to Soft771013%+2.3—
Soft8889.1%−1.61 from 1
Heavy28310.7%0—
Standard (AW)4615612.1%+1.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f127118.7%−2—
6f – 7f519489.2%−1.5—
1m – 1m1f1762011.4%+0.71 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f881112.5%+1.8—
1m5f – 2m931010.8%+0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f601525%+14.3—
2m5f – 3m1100%−10.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Win For Us (GER) (Surumu)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
2009 · 1 run
02 Aug 09 Deauville (FR) Prix du Val de Reuil (Right-Handed) 8f · Soft · 3 ran 1/3 8-12 Maxime Guyon —

Quick answers

How many races has Win For Sure won?
Win For Sure (GER) won 1 of 1 archived start in 2009, a strike rate of 100%. Placed 1 time in total (100% of starts).
Who trained Win For Sure?
Win For Sure (GER) was trained by A Wohler on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 2 August 2009.
Who is Win For Sure's sire?
Win For Sure (GER) is by Stravinsky (USA) out of Win For Us (GER), whose sire is Surumu.
What is Win For Sure's sire's record?
Stravinsky (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 1,074 runs since Jan 2008 (66 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from August 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.