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Horse profile

With Reason (USA)

7yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2005) · Last trainer Saeed bin Suroor · Last owner Godolphin
by Nashwan (USA) out of Just Cause (IRE) (Law Society)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Sep 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Sep 2005 — 7,714 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2005 · 6th of 11 Last raced off OR 110
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Sep 2005, the last of them as a 7yo gelding. Finished 6 of 11 at Doncaster last time. By Nashwan (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 292 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 91C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Haydock, 3 Sep 2005 Official rating 110 at the last run, 8 Sep 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 91C · median 87.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
6f – 7f1———
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Nashwan (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 292 runs since Jan 2008 (27 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6116.7%+7.5—
Good to Firm4149.8%+0.60 from 1
Good7068.6%−0.60 from 1
Good to Soft3925.1%−4.1—
Soft3725.4%−3.8—
Heavy1516.7%−2.5—
Standard (AW)841113.1%+3.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f700%−9.2—
6f – 7f80810%+0.80 from 1
1m – 1m1f2528%−1.20 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f52713.5%+4.3—
1m5f – 2m3925.1%−4.1—
2m1f – 2m4f4149.8%+0.6—
2m5f – 3m3525.7%−3.5—
Over 3m13215.4%+6.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Just Cause (IRE) (Law Society)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Three Strings (USA) (4 wins).

The wins came over 1m1f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Three Strings (USA)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Three Strings (USA)2841m1f–1m4fClass 6

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
08 Sep 05+5d Doncaster GNER Park Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 6/11 hd 9-0 11084C Kerrin McEvoy 10/1
03 Sep 05 Haydock William Hill Superior Mile (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 11 ran 2/11 1¼ 9-2 11091C Frankie Dettori 7/2J

Quick answers

How many races has With Reason (USA) won?
With Reason (USA) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2005. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained With Reason (USA)?
With Reason (USA) was trained by Saeed bin Suroor on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 8 September 2005.
Who is With Reason (USA)'s sire?
With Reason (USA) is by Nashwan (USA) out of Just Cause (IRE), whose sire is Law Society.
What is With Reason (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 110, from the run on 8 September 2005. That is also the highest on record.
What is With Reason (USA)'s sire's record?
Nashwan (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 292 runs since Jan 2008 (27 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are With Reason (USA)'s siblings?
Out of Just Cause (IRE), With Reason (USA) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Three Strings (USA) (4). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Three Strings (USA)). The wins came over 1m1f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.