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Horse profile

Would Wouldnt (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2009) · Last trainer Thomas Kinsey · Last owner Mrs T R Kinsey
by In A Tiff (IRE) out of Sasset (GER) (Kalaglow)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Feb 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Jun 2009 — 6,338 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2009 Won at Huntingdon Last raced off OR 88
KTB Profile

Would Wouldnt (IRE) is 1 from 5, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Feb 2008. Last raced off a career-high mark of 88.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 6

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 98C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Huntingdon, 21 Feb 2008 Official rating 88 at the last run, 21 Jun 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 98C · median 93
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m298C93—

Of 5 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
In A Tiff (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 37 runs since Jan 2008 (3 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm100%−10.80 from 1
Good8225%+14.21 from 2
Good to Soft1100%−10.80 from 2
Soft8112.5%+1.7—
Heavy9111.1%+0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m300%−10.8—
2m1f – 2m4f13215.4%+4.60 from 2
2m5f – 3m18211.1%+0.31 from 2
Over 3m300%−10.80 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Sasset (GER) (Kalaglow)

3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
I'm A Big Girl Now (IRE)10——
Mrsilverlining (IRE)30——
Sambanita (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 1 50% +11.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +12.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 1 100% +12.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 2 1 50% +11.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr W Kinsey 4 1 25% +9.00
Bernie Wharfe 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 3 1 33% +10.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2008 3 1 33% +10.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2009 · 2 runs
21 Jun 09+123d Hereford Wyvern Ices Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Firm · 16 ran PU/16 — 10-13 88— Bernie Wharfe 66/1
18 Feb 09+285d Ludlow Magnus-allcroft Memorial Trophy Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 20f · Good To Soft · 17 ran PU/17 — 11-9 88— Mr W Kinsey 200/1
2008 · 3 runs
09 May 08+60d Aintree Ormskirk Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 20f · Good · 10 ran PU/10 — 12-0 —— Mr W Kinsey 14/1
10 Mar 08+18d Stratford Knight Frank Novices' Hunter Chase Class 5 · 22.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 10/11 ½ 11-10 8888C Mr W Kinsey 14/1
21 Feb 08 Huntingdon BetChronicle.com Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 23.5f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 11-5 8898C Mr W Kinsey 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Would Wouldnt won?
Would Wouldnt (IRE) won 1 of 5 archived starts between 2008 and 2009, a strike rate of 20%. Placed 1 time in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Would Wouldnt?
Would Wouldnt (IRE) was trained by Thomas Kinsey on the most recent run on record, at Hereford on 21 June 2009.
Who is Would Wouldnt's sire?
Would Wouldnt (IRE) is by In A Tiff (IRE) out of Sasset (GER), whose sire is Kalaglow.
What is Would Wouldnt's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 21 June 2009. That is also the highest on record.
What is Would Wouldnt's sire's record?
In A Tiff (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 37 runs since Jan 2008 (3 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Would Wouldnt's siblings?
Out of Sasset (GER), Would Wouldnt (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.