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Horse profile

You Need Luck (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2008) · Last trainer T G McCourt · Last owner Liam Brady
by Key Of Luck (USA) out of Cathy Garcia (IRE) (Be My Guest)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2008
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Jul 2008 — 6,671 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2008 · 13th of 13 Last raced off OR 53
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Jun 2008 and Jul 2008, the last of them as an 8yo gelding. Finished 13 of 13 at Killarney (IRE) last time. By Key Of Luck (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,326 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 50C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Killarney (IRE), 17 Jul 2008 Official rating 53 at the last run, 17 Jul 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 50C · median 45.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good250C45.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Key Of Luck (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,326 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3213.1%−6—
Good to Firm398389.5%+0.4—
Good576559.5%+0.40 from 2
Good to Soft288258.7%−0.4—
Soft372256.7%−2.4—
Heavy145139%−0.1—
Standard (AW)5155410.5%+1.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f8778%−1.1—
6f – 7f371287.5%−1.6—
1m – 1m1f297237.7%−1.4—
1m2f – 1m4f5335610.5%+1.40 from 1
1m5f – 2m5346412%+2.9—
2m1f – 2m4f331236.9%−2.20 from 1
2m5f – 3m13675.1%−4—
Over 3m3738.1%−1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Cathy Garcia (IRE) (Be My Guest)

3 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Woolston Ferry (IRE) (11 wins).

The wins came over 7f–2m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Woolston Ferry (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Woolston Ferry (IRE)76117f–1m½fClass 4
Gainsborough's Art (IRE)5632m–2m3½fClass 4
Black Apache (IRE)1512mClass 4

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
17 Jul 08+23d Killarney (IRE) Malton Hotel Winners Enclosure Handicap 17f · Good · 13 ran 13/13 30 8-1 5350C Shane Gorey 33/1
24 Jun 08 Sligo '7th August Ladies Day At Sligo' Handicap (45-60) 12f · Good · 15 ran 11/15 1½ 8-11 5041C Paul Townend 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has You Need Luck (IRE) won?
You Need Luck (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained You Need Luck (IRE)?
You Need Luck (IRE) was trained by T G McCourt on the most recent run on record, at Killarney (IRE) on 17 July 2008.
Who is You Need Luck (IRE)'s sire?
You Need Luck (IRE) is by Key Of Luck (USA) out of Cathy Garcia (IRE), whose sire is Be My Guest.
What is You Need Luck (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 53, from the run on 17 July 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is You Need Luck (IRE)'s sire's record?
Key Of Luck (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,326 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 5.1% from 136.
Who are You Need Luck (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Cathy Garcia (IRE), You Need Luck (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Woolston Ferry (IRE) (11). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Woolston Ferry (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–2m3½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.