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Horse profile

As The Lad Says (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, May 2025) · Last trainer T W Fife · Last owner Mrs Amy Fife
by Sandmason (GB) out of Innova (IRE) (Arcadio)
3 runs · 3 courses · from May 2024
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 May 2025 — 526 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2025 · 6th of 9 New yard
KTB Profile

As The Lad Says finished sixth of nine in the Fraser Cup Maiden Hunters Chase at Cartmel in May 2025 on his last run, which was his first for T W Fife. The gelding, by Sandmason out of an Arcadio mare, was unplaced on all three starts between May 2024 and May 2025. He raced over 2m1f to 2m4f twice and 2m5f to 3m once, on good to soft, good and soft ground.

Based on 3 archived runs · run-style from 1 commented run since May 2025 · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 3 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 86C the best of the last 1 rated run · Cartmel, 26 May 2025

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 66C the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 8 Jun 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Sandmason (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 493 runs since Sep 2010 (66 horses).

Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 15.3% from 131.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm500%−11.4—
Good186168.6%−2.80 from 1
Good to Soft821113.4%+20 from 1
Soft1481812.2%+0.80 from 1
Heavy711115.5%+4.1—
Standard (AW)100%−11.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m1312015.3%+3.9—
2m1f – 2m4f1701710%−1.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m135128.9%−2.50 from 1
Over 3m57712.3%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Sep 2010 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Innova (IRE) (Arcadio)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ms H Dunne 2 0 0% −2.00
Miss Natasha Cookson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 1 0 0% −1.00
2024 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 1 run
26 May 25+352d Cartmel Fraser Cup Maiden Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran Towards the rear - serious blunder at the 10th and driven to keep in touch - out of contention from 2 out 6/9 7½ 11-7 -5C86C Miss Natasha Cookson 25/1
2024 · 2 runs
08 Jun 24+10d Punchestown Northway Personnel (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m1f · Good · 20 ran 17/20 14 11-7 —66C Ms H Dunne 150/1
29 May 24 Wexford Racing Again 13th July Flat Race 2m4f · Yielding To Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-7 —— Ms H Dunne 150/1

Quick answers

How many races has As The Lad Says won?
As The Lad Says (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2024 and 2025.
Who trained As The Lad Says?
As The Lad Says (IRE) was trained by T W Fife on the most recent run on record, at Cartmel on 26 May 2025.
Who is As The Lad Says's sire?
As The Lad Says (IRE) is by Sandmason (GB) out of Innova (IRE), whose sire is Arcadio.
What is As The Lad Says's sire's record?
Sandmason (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 493 runs since Sep 2010 (66 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 15.3% from 131.

Record shown from May 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.