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Horse profile

Askfornothing (GB)

3yo colt (at last run, Sep 2009) · Last trainer David Wachman · Last owner J I Barnett
by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Hyabella (GB) (Shirley Heights)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Mar 2009
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Sep 2009 — 6,259 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2009 · 8th of 12 Last raced off OR 73
KTB Profile

Askfornothing (GB) is yet to win from 5 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 14 at Curragh (Mar 2009). Last raced off a career-high mark of 73.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 57A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Bellewstown, 26 Aug 2009 Official rating 73 at the last run, 7 Sep 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 5 figures · best 76A · median 57
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Heavy357A54—
Soft276A72—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f476A62.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Cadeaux Genereux (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3013.3%−6.8—
Good to Firm5495610.2%+0.1—
Good636589.1%−1—
Good to Soft2963511.8%+1.7—
Soft3634111.3%+1.20 from 2
Heavy9399.7%−0.40 from 3
Standard (AW)9529610.1%0—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3203310.3%+0.2—
6f – 7f1,2491219.7%−0.4—
1m – 1m1f5616611.8%+1.70 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f3894110.5%+0.40 from 1
1m5f – 2m192147.3%−2.8—
2m1f – 2m4f1471711.6%+1.5—
2m5f – 3m4636.5%−3.6—
Over 3m1516.7%−3.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Hyabella (GB) (Shirley Heights)

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Poet (GB) (8 wins).

The wins came over 1m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Poet (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Poet (GB)2681m–2m½fGroup 3
High Stratos (GB)1232m–2m4fClass 5
High Reserve (GB)511m2fClass 4
Monsoon Wedding (GB)811m1fClass 5
PoetI (GB)70—Group 3
Up The Junction (GB)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Wayne Lordan 2 0 0% −2.00
Fabio Branca 2 0 0% −2.00
R N Lawlor 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
None 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2009 · 5 runs
07 Sep 09+12d Clonmel Rathronan (C & G) Maiden 10f · Heavy · 12 ran 8/12 hd 9-0 7354C Wayne Lordan 10/1
26 Aug 09+115d Bellewstown Thomas Jenkinson Memorial E.B.F Maiden 8f · Heavy · 12 ran 6/12 nk 9-5 —57A Wayne Lordan 7/1
03 May 09+21d Gowran Park Family Day At Gowran Park (c & G) Maiden 8f · Heavy · 14 ran 8/14 5 9-5 —52C Fabio Branca 10/1
12 Apr 09+21d Cork Ballyclough (c & G) Maiden 8.5f · Soft · 6 ran 6/6 ½ 9-0 —68C Fabio Branca 5/2
22 Mar 09 Curragh Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F Maiden 8f · Soft · 14 ran 3/14 1½ 8-9 —76A R N Lawlor 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Askfornothing won?
Askfornothing (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2009. Placed 1 time in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Askfornothing?
Askfornothing (GB) was trained by David Wachman on the most recent run on record, at Clonmel on 7 September 2009.
Who is Askfornothing's sire?
Askfornothing (GB) is by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Hyabella (GB), whose sire is Shirley Heights.
What is Askfornothing's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 73, from the run on 7 September 2009. That is also the highest on record.
What is Askfornothing's sire's record?
Cadeaux Genereux (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Askfornothing's siblings?
Out of Hyabella (GB), Askfornothing (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Poet (GB) (8). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Poet (GB)). The wins came over 1m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.