Black Thunder (FR)
Black Thunder is a gelding by Waldgeist out of a Henrythenavigator mare who has failed to win in six starts on turf and all-weather. He showed his best effort when third of 14 at Vichy in Jul 2026 and has reached an official rating of 75. All six runs came at different courses with four over 1m2f – 1m4f. He finished seventh of 15 in the Prix De Neuilly at Longchamp in Sep 2026.
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (16.7%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 75Highest OR
- 64dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 924 runs since Jan 2008 (126 horses).
Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.2% from 230.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 63 | 6 | 9.5% | +0.8 | — |
| Good | 210 | 18 | 8.6% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 155 | 13 | 8.4% | −0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 169 | 16 | 9.5% | +0.8 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 65 | 8 | 12.3% | +3.6 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 262 | 19 | 7.3% | −1.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 77 | 7 | 9.1% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 230 | 12 | 5.2% | −3.5 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 385 | 42 | 10.9% | +2.2 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 172 | 16 | 9.3% | +0.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 49 | 2 | 4.1% | −4.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 11 | 1 | 9.1% | +0.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 25 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Vichy (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chantilly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tony Piccone | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Martin Protti | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Stephane Pasquier | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tongue tie + visor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hood + cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| None | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2025 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 · 5 runs | ||||||||
| 03 Sep 26+25d | Longchamp (FR) | Prix De Neuilly | 7/15 | hd | 9-4 | 75 | Tony Piccone | 11/1 |
| 09 Aug 26+18d | Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) | Prix Pmu Partenaire N°1 Des Hippodromes (Prix Du Moulin De Varennes) | 5/7 | 3 | 8-11 | 75 | Martin Protti | 5/2 |
| 22 Jul 26+15d | Vichy (FR) | Prix Du Charolais | 3/14 | 1 | 9-4 | 75 | Tony Piccone | 17/2 |
| 07 Jul 26+99d | Chantilly | Prix De Fleurus Handicap | 6/14 | 1 | 9-6 | 75 | Stephane Pasquier | 12/1 |
| 30 Mar 26+165d | Chantilly (FR) | Prix du Palio de Chantilly (Handicap) (All Weather) (Polytrack) | 15/15 | ¾ | 8-7 | 75 | Tony Piccone | 14/1 |
| 2025 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 16 Oct 25 | Saint-Cloud (FR) | Prix Pharel (Conditions) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) | 5/7 | 1¼ | 9-2 | — | Tony Piccone | 10/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Black Thunder won?
- Black Thunder (FR) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2025 and 2026. Placed 1 time in total (16.7% of starts).
- Who trains Black Thunder?
- Black Thunder (FR) is trained by H-A Pantall, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 3 September 2026.
- Who is Black Thunder's sire?
- Black Thunder (FR) is by Waldgeist (GB) out of Tiresias (FR), whose sire is Henrythenavigator.
- What is Black Thunder's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 75, from the run on 3 September 2026. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Black Thunder's sire's record?
- Waldgeist (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 924 runs since Jan 2008 (126 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.2% from 230.