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Horse profile

Cartesienne (IRE)

4yo filly (at last run, Aug 2020) · Last trainer J F Grogan · Last owner J F Grogan
by Pivotal (GB) out of Modern Ideals (GB) (New Approach)
7 runs · 4 courses · from May 2019
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Aug 2020 — 2,265 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2020 · 8th of 18 Last raced off OR 66
KTB Profile

Cartesienne (IRE) is yet to win from 7 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 17 at Cork (Jul 2020). Last raced off a career-high mark of 66.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Cartesienne (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Miss Cartesian (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 6f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Miss Cartesian (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Miss Cartesian (IRE)426f–7fClass 4
Shibuya Storm (IRE)1016fClass 5

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 7 figures · best 102C · median 79
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good5102C79—
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f491C75.5—
6f – 7f3102C79—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cork, 5 Jul 2020 Official rating 66 at the last run, 14 Aug 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 7 figures · best 88A · median 61
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good588A65—
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f475A55—
6f – 7f388A65—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Pivotal (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 12,788 runs since Jan 2008 (1,019 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.4% from 108.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm82911%−2.6—
Good to Firm1,93725012.9%−0.70 from 1
Good2,83638513.6%00 from 5
Good to Soft1,60420012.5%−1.1—
Soft2,07128213.6%00 from 1
Heavy7029713.8%+0.2—
Standard (AW)3,55651414.5%+0.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,16413411.5%−2.1—
6f – 7f4,40659413.5%−0.10 from 3
1m – 1m1f3,13149515.8%+2.20 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f2,46834013.8%+0.2—
1m5f – 2m1,09411910.9%−2.7—
2m1f – 2m4f3974511.3%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m10887.4%−6.2—
Over 3m20210%−3.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Modern News (GB) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Modern Games (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Modern News (GB)1366f–1mListed
Modern Games (IRE)1257f–1mGroup 1
Mawj (IRE)636f–1mGroup 1
Feminism (IRE)617f—
Model Maker (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Gowran Park 4 0 0% −4.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 4 0 0% −4.00
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paddy Harnett 3 0 0% −3.00
Ronan Whelan 3 0 0% −3.00
Andrew Slattery 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 4 0 0% −4.00
None 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 4 0 0% −4.00
2019 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 4 runs
14 Aug 20+22d Curragh Derek O'Sullivan Memorial Apprentice Handicap (45-70) 8f · Good · 18 ran 8/18 nk 9-12 6690C75A Andrew Slattery 11/1
23 Jul 20+18d Leopardstown TRM Kurasyn Handicap (45-70) 7f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 1 9-6 6679C60A Paddy Harnett 9/1
05 Jul 20+18d Cork Cork Handicap (45-65) 7f · Good · 17 ran 2/17 shd 9-8 64102C88A Paddy Harnett 33/1
17 Jun 20+265d Gowran Park MansionBet's Beaten By A Head Handicap (45-70) 7f · Good · 14 ran 7/14 hd 9-3 6473C65A Paddy Harnett 100/1
2019 · 3 runs
26 Sep 19+102d Gowran Park 2020 Golf Membership From 600 Maiden 9.5f · Soft · 16 ran 13/16 3½ 9-0 —49C45C Ronan Whelan 20/1
16 Jun 19+18d Gowran Park Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden 9.5f · Good · 13 ran 5/13 8½ 9-0 —61C49C Ronan Whelan 8/1
29 May 19 Gowran Park Kilkenny Pembroke Hotel Fillies Maiden 8f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 6/13 1¼ 9-0 —91C61A Ronan Whelan 9/1

Quick answers

How many races has Cartesienne won?
Cartesienne (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2019 and 2020. Placed 1 time in total (14.3% of starts).
Who trained Cartesienne?
Cartesienne (IRE) was trained by J F Grogan on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 14 August 2020.
Who is Cartesienne's sire?
Cartesienne (IRE) is by Pivotal (GB) out of Modern Ideals (GB), whose sire is New Approach.
What is Cartesienne's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 66, from the run on 14 August 2020. That is also the highest on record.
What is Cartesienne's sire's record?
Pivotal (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 12,788 runs since Jan 2008 (1,019 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.4% from 108.
Who are Cartesienne's siblings?
Out of Modern Ideals (GB), Cartesienne (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Modern News (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Modern Games (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m. As at Oct 2026.
Has Cartesienne produced winners?
As a dam, Cartesienne (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Miss Cartesian (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Miss Cartesian (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.