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Horse profile

Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2023) · Last trainer A J Martin · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Milan (GB) out of Ice Princess (IRE) (Presenting)
5 runs · 3 courses · from May 2022
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Dec 2023 — 1,044 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2023 · 10th of 13
KTB Profile

Dontlettheoldmanin is a Milan gelding out of an unraced Presenting mare who failed to win in five starts on turf between May 2022 and Dec 2023. He raced at three Irish tracks without placing, twice at Down Royal and twice at Fairyhouse, and never contested a race off a mark higher than his career-high official rating of 102. All five runs came over 1m5f to 2m4f, three of them on soft ground. His last run, at Down Royal in Dec 2023, saw him finish 10 of 13 in a beginners chase.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 54 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Down Royal, 5 Nov 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 76C · median 54
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft354B48—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m376C63—
2m1f – 2m4f254B51—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 105C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Fairyhouse, 3 Dec 2022 Official rating 102 at the last run, 1 Jan 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 113A · median 95
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft3113A95—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m3105C93—
2m1f – 2m4f2113A104—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Milan (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,869 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1815.6%−5.7—
Good to Firm5536611.9%+0.6—
Good5,17765112.6%+1.30 from 1
Good to Soft3,29838611.7%+0.40 from 1
Soft5,03450210%−1.30 from 3
Heavy2,71630311.2%−0.1—
Standard (AW)7322.7%−8.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−11.3—
1m – 1m1f9111.1%−0.2—
1m2f – 1m4f5835.2%−6.1—
1m5f – 2m3,86040310.4%−0.90 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f5,48159910.9%−0.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m5,80870012.1%+0.8—
Over 3m1,65020512.4%+1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Aug 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ice Princess (IRE) (Presenting)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Milan Bridge (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Milan Bridge (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Milan Bridge (IRE)2062m3½f–3m1½fClass 3
Pats Dream (IRE)1022m5½f–3mClass 5

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Down Royal 2 0 0% −2.00
Fairyhouse 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Simon Torrens 2 0 0% −2.00
Gavin Brouder 1 0 0% −1.00
Denis O'Regan 1 0 0% −1.00
Mark Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 2 0 0% −2.00
2022 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 2 runs
26 Dec 23+359d Down Royal Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase 2m4f · Soft · 13 ran 10/13 9 11-7 —48C95C Gavin Brouder 33/1
01 Jan 23+29d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse Membership 2023 Handicap Hurdle 2m · Soft · 11 ran 8/11 nk 11-5 10240A93A Simon Torrens 4/1
2022 · 3 runs
03 Dec 22+28d Fairyhouse Fingal Ravens Raceday Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) 2m · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 5½ 11-12 —63C105C Denis O'Regan 50/1
05 Nov 22+161d Down Royal Tayto Group Maiden Hurdle 2m1f · Soft · 20 ran 6/20 hd 11-12 —54B113A Simon Torrens 66/1
28 May 22 Punchestown Get Your Ladbrokes Daily Odds Boosts Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 2m · Good · 18 ran 12/18 6 11-6 —76C88C Mark Walsh 18/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dontlettheoldmanin won?
Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2022 and 2023.
Who trained Dontlettheoldmanin?
Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) was trained by A J Martin on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 26 December 2023.
Who is Dontlettheoldmanin's sire?
Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) is by Milan (GB) out of Ice Princess (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Dontlettheoldmanin's official rating?
Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 102.
What is Dontlettheoldmanin's sire's record?
Milan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,869 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Dontlettheoldmanin's siblings?
Out of Ice Princess (IRE), Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Milan Bridge (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Milan Bridge (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.