Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE)
Dontlettheoldmanin is a Milan gelding out of an unraced Presenting mare who failed to win in five starts on turf between May 2022 and Dec 2023. He raced at three Irish tracks without placing, twice at Down Royal and twice at Fairyhouse, and never contested a race off a mark higher than his career-high official rating of 102. All five runs came over 1m5f to 2m4f, three of them on soft ground. His last run, at Down Royal in Dec 2023, saw him finish 10 of 13 in a beginners chase.
- 0–5Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −5.00£1 level staken=5 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=5 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 102Highest OR
- 29dBetween runs (median)longest 359 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 54
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 4 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 54B | 48 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 4 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 76C | 63 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 54B | 51 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,869 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 1 | 5.6% | −5.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 553 | 66 | 11.9% | +0.6 | — |
| Good | 5,177 | 651 | 12.6% | +1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 3,298 | 386 | 11.7% | +0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 5,034 | 502 | 10% | −1.3 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 2,716 | 303 | 11.2% | −0.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 73 | 2 | 2.7% | −8.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −11.3 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | −0.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 58 | 3 | 5.2% | −6.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3,860 | 403 | 10.4% | −0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5,481 | 599 | 10.9% | −0.4 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5,808 | 700 | 12.1% | +0.8 | — |
| Over 3m | 1,650 | 205 | 12.4% | +1.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Aug 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Milan Bridge (IRE) (6 wins).
The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Milan Bridge (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Milan Bridge (IRE) | 20 | 6 | 2m3½f–3m1½f | Class 3 |
| Pats Dream (IRE) | 10 | 2 | 2m5½f–3m | Class 5 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Down Royal | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Punchestown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Torrens | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Gavin Brouder | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Denis O'Regan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mark Walsh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2022 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 26 Dec 23+359d | Down Royal | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase | 10/13 | 9 | 11-7 | — | 48C | 95C | Gavin Brouder | 33/1 |
| 01 Jan 23+29d | Fairyhouse | Fairyhouse Membership 2023 Handicap Hurdle | 8/11 | nk | 11-5 | 102 | 40A | 93A | Simon Torrens | 4/1 |
| 2022 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 03 Dec 22+28d | Fairyhouse | Fingal Ravens Raceday Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) | 5/16 | 5½ | 11-12 | — | 63C | 105C | Denis O'Regan | 50/1 |
| 05 Nov 22+161d | Down Royal | Tayto Group Maiden Hurdle | 6/20 | hd | 11-12 | — | 54B | 113A | Simon Torrens | 66/1 |
| 28 May 22 | Punchestown | Get Your Ladbrokes Daily Odds Boosts Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) | 12/18 | 6 | 11-6 | — | 76C | 88C | Mark Walsh | 18/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Dontlettheoldmanin won?
- Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2022 and 2023.
- Who trained Dontlettheoldmanin?
- Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) was trained by A J Martin on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 26 December 2023.
- Who is Dontlettheoldmanin's sire?
- Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) is by Milan (GB) out of Ice Princess (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
- What is Dontlettheoldmanin's official rating?
- Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 102.
- What is Dontlettheoldmanin's sire's record?
- Milan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,869 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Dontlettheoldmanin's siblings?
- Out of Ice Princess (IRE), Dontlettheoldmanin (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Milan Bridge (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Milan Bridge (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.